 | | Thoughts on prayer —Daniel Jassim
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| | | Greetings! I noticed so many interesting posts regarding spirituality here so I thought I'd start a discussion about prayer. One day my wife was telling me about one of her friends at work, an older Christian woman. She is a very nice woman, perhaps (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —James Simpson
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| | | | | (...) Daniel: I completely respect what you have to say here. If I may paraphrase you, simply to better understand what you are saying, do you mean that because you do not believe in a higher power, that you believe prayer to be a self-reflection; a (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | (...) Exactly, a moment of "prayer" in my case would a moment of clarity for self reflection or meditation (clearing the mind and focusing on the moment). I personally would not give praise or thanks to any higher power, but I'd certainly be a fool (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Markus Wolf
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| | | | | | (...) That's an interesting perspective that I've never considered before. I've always considered the true power of Jesus' message being the fact that God wants a relationship with me. That's a mind-boggling concept. That the Creator of the Universe (...) (24 years ago, 12-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | (...) Actually, you'd enjoy the Moslem's perspective on Jesus (which I agree with) as a prophet who took care of business. Moslem's acknowledge the willful, uncorruptable, rebellious personality of Jesus--standing up for the oppressed, weak and poor (...) (24 years ago, 12-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Markus Wolf
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| | | | | | (...) Okay, but the only problem with that is that Jesus claimed to be more than a prophet. I mean that's what got him killed was the "blasphemy" of referring to himself as "I Am." I'm sure the Moslems have a problem with that. By calling Jesus a (...) (24 years ago, 14-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | (...) that. Yes, exactly. Moslems acknowledge Jesus only as a prophet, not as God as most Christians do. They do believe in the immaculate conception but also make note that Jesus had siblings. Actually, the Koran makes a lot more sense than the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Some years ago a friend who'd done some study on the matter defined black magic (as many sources do) as the practice of ritual or enchantment without the permission and/or knowledge of the intended recipient. By this definition, prayer without (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | (...) When my mom says she prays for me, I equivocate it with saying "My thoughts and hopes are with you." In that sense, any sort of prayer (whether it's praying to God, Jesus, Shivva, Buddha, poking pins in voodoo dolls, doing a rain dance, (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | (...) You can also swear on the Constitution. It wouldn't suprise me if there are other recognized religious and non-religious documents you can swear on. Jeff (24 years ago, 11-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Thoughts on prayer —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | (...) Or...your life, your mother's grave, The Bat of the Great DiMaggio, etc etc. But I wouldn't suggest one swear at anyone holding a weapon. best LFB (24 years ago, 11-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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