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  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) (URL)(note the lack of trailing slash in the original as typed) (...) ++Lar (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G7MqB3.L0y@lugnet.com... (...) Hmmm. I'm not sure I understand your point here Larry. Surely the page displayed is not the result of a technology decision? I would guess it's more of a (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) Larry, my dear old man, please have your poor head examined. What you've cited above doesn't have anything to do with the choice of server technologies, much less with the choice or non-choice of MS. That page comes up because I specifically (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) No difference there except semantically, at least not the way I was using technology in this context, rather broadly. MS got this part of the standard wrong in that the MS web browser saves bookmarks to pages without the trailing slash, and (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) My head's just fine, thanks... no bigger than normal. (...) (URL) that I have a different interpretation. (...) who use older versions of MS browsers OR (...) That'd be nice. ++Lar (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) You're so far off track, it's not even funny. --Todd (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) Well, guess what. You suspect wrong. By the time my handler realizes that the page doesn't exist, it has already output the HTTP header. Thus, it can't easily go back and redirect the page at that point with a 'Location:' header. I'll figure (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) Not quite true... (...) NES/iWS do this automagically. -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | iPlanet Support - (URL) A division of AOL Time Warner | Please do not associate my personal views with (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) ah ha, but it is funny. This whole thing is, especially to some neophyte philistine (sp?) like me. Sillyness like this is the reason Roger Waters left Pink Floyd. Think of all of lego you people could've been building instead of squabling like (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) You mean there are webservers that don't automatically forward trailing- slashless URLs to trailing-slashed URLs by default, and have a configurable error page? (...) I thought basically all webservers did that automatically. That's why I had (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) But why? Is there a load on the server which makes trailing slashless URLs incredibly inefficient? I find that what is in place to stop those slashless URLs from being forwarded is quite a significant irritation (and others have told me that (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) But as Larry has argued before, whether YOU think you are in the right or not, you are going counterintuitive to the vast majority of the Internet. There ARE times where you should just get off the high horse and do something for the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) I don't think it's about being "right" or "wrong." The reason that it's "counterintuitive" relative to the rest of the Internet is that 99.999999% of websites don't let you create non-index webpages that don't use filename extensions. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
Sorry, your choices are the counterintuitive ones. 1) I don't know what universe you live in, but in MINE, the bulk of sites on the web translate (URL) to (URL) Member pages are the obvious problem here - you designed them wrong from the start, and (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  URLs without trailing slashes
 
(...) counterintuitive relative to most sites is precisely because of the above. (...) "Wrong"? LOL. (...) It's just a different way of naming pages. --Todd (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
I think we've been through this before. The reason that /foo/bar and /foo/bar/ are almost always synonymous is because most content (even dynamic) is filesystem based. That means you can have either the file "bar" or directory "bar" in directory (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Loch writes: Of course that should be: fixURL(char *buf) { int urlsize; urlsize=strlen(buf); if ((buf[urlsize]-1] != '/') && (urlsize < BUFSIZE-1)) { buf[urlsize]='/'; buf[urlsize+1]=0; } (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) Might wanna throw in a comment at the top stating that behavior is undefined (and may even result in a segmentation fault) if fixURL(buf) is called when *buf == "\0". As written above, code assumes that strlen(buf) >= 1. --Todd (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not at all a pact with the devil...
 
(...) d'Oh. Shame on me. I mean when *buf == '\0'. :-) --Todd (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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