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Re: About "Plowed Territory"
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Sun, 3 Dec 2000 01:21:56 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal repeats himself:
> At the risk (hope;) of annoying you further, I'll recite the absolute pertinent
> part of the chapter:
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> "What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be
> done; and there is nothing new under the
> sun.
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> Is there a thing of which it is said, "See, this is new"? It has been
> already, in the ages before us.
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> There is no remembrance of former things, nor will there be any
> remembrance of later things yet to happen
> among those who come after."
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> So, my point is that *everything* is plowed ground
No, your point is that someone ASSERTS that everything everyone can imagine
is plowed ground. Not everything actually is, John. That person is wrong.
There are wonders still to discover, changes ahead of us, neato creations
yet to build. (reminder, that person lived in an age that didn't think much
of science, and in which the rate of discovery and change was orders of
magnitude lower than now)
But when we all go over the same topic in this forum, over and over and over
again, it's annoying. For example, Bill F. in his response to your response,
posts Pascal's Wager AGAIN, for what must be the 57th time in this
newsgroup... and when, in fact, LFB had already said, (in effect) don't
bother because here are the cites that argue against it, make up your own
mind, it's old news. When he does that, THAT is plowed ground.
I for one am tired of this endless repetition. It's not helping anyone
clarify their thinking or discover anything new, about themselves, about
their friends, about society, not about anything.
> and therefore your whining
I'm not whining, I'm ranting. There's a difference.
> about it is senseless. But even still, some of this plowed ground is still new to
> some and is therefore valid to them. Merely because *you* have shut your mind on
> the topic doesn't invalidate its relevancy for others.
Those others can read it in the historical record (posts here never go away)
when they come upon it later. Or they can speak up now. If there are any,
which I doubt. This discussion is the Usual Suspects talking about the usual
things.
Why don't you monomaniacal christians just shut up on this topic? Really.
Just... shut... up... Or get Todd to set up an off-topic.debate.religion so
it can be ignored by those not interested.
Or at least not bring up religion in threads that weren't started to discuss
it. And I believe that's the first time I've ever singled out a group rather
than a person as the cause of trouble in a LUGNet newsgroup, and I'm sorry
it's come to this, but it has.
Bill says he hates christians who get in your face about their religion.
Look in the mirror, Bill. Just accept that some are happy without your tin
god and let it go at that. Just let it go.
I've gotten several notes from long time readers of this forum, people whose
participation in it makes it fun and interesting when they are here, who
despair of any discussion lately not ending up talking about religion within
a few posts and who are giving up on the newsgroup altogether
I would too but I don't have the willpower they do.
++Lar
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| (...) I made points, that for me, are unresolved, and asked an honest question because I sincerely want an answer. For me it's not plowed ground. If you don't like it, don't participate. (...) I disagree. I've learned much, and not afraid to admit, (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I don't know, Lar. Whether you drive a horse and cart, a 2000 LeSabre or a Hovercoupe, you are still going to wonder about the nature of your own existence and die. Maybe the little details change, but the important questions are still the (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) It could have been two words for all you read. Do you have any idea why I cited it? (...) Mighty white of....forget it, plowed ground;-) (...) At the risk (hope;) of annoying you further, I'll recite the absolute pertinent part of the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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