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Hey Y'all: I see some of you exerting some considerable effort around the subject of the problem of evil. I thought I might summarize the essentials if I might... The problem of evil is normally worded in the manner of a theorem, as are the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Problem of Evil
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(...) Flawed. God is good and gives us free will to choose evil. Respecting this choice is a part of honoring our autonomy. (...) If God wanted to. See above. (...) Flawed. Explain how to quantify evil. (...) This goes without saying. (...) Maybe (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Problem of Evil
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(...) Flawed. Prove free will rather than determinism. Prove to me that your actions are not determined by your nervous system, learned behavior, socialization skills, etc. Free will is an idea I tend to agree with because I find it aesthetically (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tough proof I agree. (...) I agree. It is better to presuppose that we are acting freely. (...) Stop right there. God isn't "testing" us. God created us and gave us life to do with it what we will. (...) Well, other than the fact that God is (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Problem of Evil
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(...) THE ENTIRE BIBLE is a collection of stories. It conflicts itself all over the place. I suppose you pull the standard dodges, and only pick what parts you agree with, and say they are true while the rest MUST be wrong? -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mr. Marchetti: Concerning the problem of evil, you provided an outline of two arguments and then concluded: "But the point is: the Christian god cannot exist in the manner in which most Christians envision him to exist. Whatever he may or may not (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the understanding of God changed and matured through time in the OT. The early Israelites were polytheistic; they had to learn that there was only one god YHWH. YHWH was perceived as a war God. This is definitely inconsistent (in my (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gee, I think this was Tom's point -- at least in a a way. See? Your perspective is that the bible is a kind of source of authority, yet you are able to pick and choose elements from it because it is an "imperfect" source. With all kinds of (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Problem of Evil
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Let me take it from another perspective. YHWH, or God, really IS a God of war, but he's more than that. I see Jesus as the completer of the picture of God. That is, revelation is progressive. If you look at God's relationship with Noah, then (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Problem of Evil
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(...) Yes, thank you - a good debater I am not. But that was my point. Basing your Faith on some conflicting book written 2K years ago BY MEN is just silly, IN MY OPINION. And NOTHING anyone says will convince me otherwise. Isaac Asimov could have (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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