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Re: Aeroflot Antonov An-28
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Fri, 4 May 2007 17:11:18 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
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   Richie: I am serious about our playground fights. I do call him Timmy (from South Park) and will not anymore. I did this because of his derisive use of “sergeant.”

Pretty sure you called me Timmy first but it really is unimportant.

   Anyone that was a soldier will know the real meaning of this rank (actually I was a First Sergeant, huge difference).

And I’m a Doctor if you want to be precise but I’ve never gone on about it like you have about your rank.

I did not go on about, but did not hide the fact. I mention it in my Lugnet page. I mention it and do not feel any need to hide it. I also have never mentioned what by graduate degrees are in. As for you being a doctor, so are my kids. My daughter is a DO and a Major soon to be a LTC in the Army, My son is a PA Captain and has served two rotations in Iraq and one in Haiti.
  
   His use of the term in this fashion deprecates the rank and lacks respect (as in poking fun at me) to the others that have held or hold this rank and shoulder the responsibility.

This is the main reason I wanted to respond.

I am not doing this to disrespect active soldiers or the rank. I may not always agree with the reasons for wars but I give my respect to the bravery of people in the armed services. Any rudeness from calling you sergeant is intended only at you the individual and not at the rank or soldiers in general.

you finally admitted to some rudeness. It is like saying “Kill all the lawyers,” few would strip away the nuances of that statement saying it does not apply to all lawyers, just you.
  
   I do not expect him to respect me and I know he does not, but it is a moniker of respect, not something to be ashamed of when used in the correct fashion.

The correct fashion is while serving in the armed services or being addressed formally outside it.

Here you are totally wrong. When you are retired from service you are refered to as your last rank. You can see this on CNN and Fox news when they have their retired Generals or Colonels commenting. The mail I get from the VA or from the Army is always addressed to 1SG. One never outlives their rank. You were thoughtless here and took the easy way out. I just think that you could belittle me in a different way. When meeting with troops at Ft Bliss I am always introduced as First Sergeant wheather it is by a private or a general. And this was for your information.
  
   In the world situation we live, Tim should pick his words better when trying to torment me. Too many young men and women who are sergeants are making unimaginable sacrifices today.

If I was referring to one of them in the situations I mention above I would use the correct capitalised form to refer to them. I am not so I do not.

   I do find it strange that no one else pointed this out as you did on my use of “Timmy.” John is what I clearly prefer. John P

Tim

Tim - I think that it should be left here. I was answering Richie anyway. John P



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  Re: Aeroflot Antonov An-28
 
--snip-- (...) I never denied it. Unlike you I'm usually aware of when I am or am not being rude. (...) No. Most would understand the difference. It takes a special sort of brain not to see the difference. The kind of brain that would also do (...) (17 years ago, 4-May-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Aeroflot Antonov An-28
 
--snip-- (...) Pretty sure you called me Timmy first but it really is unimportant. (...) And I'm a Doctor if you want to be precise but I've never gone on about it like you have about your rank. (...) This is the main reason I wanted to respond. I (...) (17 years ago, 4-May-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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