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(...) Cites? (...) And you think this is a bad idea? (...) Are they illegals? (which would mean that the very first thing they did upon entering the US was break the law) (...) You make this sound like an everyday occurrence. We have done this to (...) (18 years ago, 30-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The analogy is tired, but it is a good example of a modern western leader elected in a democratic process with promises to make the average citizen's life better who ended up bringing devastation to his country and the world. We obviously have (...) (18 years ago, 30-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So, you are saying that our current government has brought devastation to our country and the world, is that correct? (...) That well may be true, but it is not necessarily my objective to move you on any particular position, but at least to (...) (18 years ago, 1-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes! Mostly economic and social destuction, but in Iraq physical destruction as well! Recently South Korean farmers publicly commited suicide as an act of protest against flooding their countries markets with cheap (...) (18 years ago, 1-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Economic destruction? All I've seen is 2 of the most horrific economic disasters strike during Bush's tenure (9-11 and Katrina, neither of which can be attributed to the Bush Administration), and yet our economy still grows. To what economic (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) First of all, you gotta think globally for a minute. Believe it or not, there's a whole world out there beyond our borders, and our actions have consequences that can be felt throughout. But now that you mention OUR economy, to what indicators (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So why do you (URL) call them "islamo-fascists">, and not "alleged terrorists"???? ROSCO (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I was speaking specifically about the people who are incarcerated. The purpose of their detention is what they've done, not what they believe (although it is the motivation behind what they did). So my point was that we do not simply detain (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But that's the whole problem. The only evidence we have that these detainees are terrorists is, basically, Dubya's assertion that they're terrorists. They're denied all due process and access to lawyers, and in many cases they've been held for (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Enemy combatants are treated differently than US citizens. This has always been the case. (...) Well, if you had Christian leaders invecting from the pulpit to incarcerate Muslims, I might be inclined to agree (which is the analogy to Mullahs (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In fact, this has only "always" been the case since Dubya created the term "enemy combatant" out of the firmament. It didn't exist prior to his declaration of permanent war on terror, at least not as a supra-legal designator for "people whom (...) (18 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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