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  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Kind of a tricky line to walk. I mean, getting a job as a stunt man you're subjected to physical danger and harm. Working as a stripper will almost guarantee what (in other industries) would easily be construed as sexual harassment from (...) (20 years ago, 8-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) I await the day when the concept of smoking is only remembered in the history books. Not likely to happen in my lifetime, though. In the mean time, whatever I can do to clear the air, making it safer for me and others, I'll do. -Tim (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Even if it violates people's rights? (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) The right to breathe clean air is inherently superior to the right to subject others to the byproduct of your pleasure. -Tim (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Where? You have no right to breathe ANY air (clean OR dirty) when on my property, unless I grant it. And conversely I have no right to emit smoke on your property, unless you grant it. Therefore when you're on my property, you will breathe the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) They're open to the public. We aren't talking about esatblishments that close their doors to people walking in. Nontheless, I don't sense we can agree on this issue, as we take a fundamentally different approach towards individual rights. (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Just thought of this one: I think your basis for saying that these establishments should ban smoking is for the employees, not the customers. Basically that if the employees were, say, robots, that it would be ok to have bars that allowed (...) (20 years ago, 10-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) I await the day when the concept of smoking american guns all around the world is only remembered in the history books. with a paranoid nation which has just confirmed its paranoic government it's not likely to happen in my lifetime, though. (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Ouch! For me, I'm very libertarian where smoking is concerned--Hey, you're hurting yourself if you smoke--if you want to play Russian Roulette with the cigarettes (1), all the power to ya! THis gets into a very big 'gray' area where my tax (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) All I ask about tobacco companies are that the people responsible for hiding cigarettes toxicity and increasing their addictive elements are held personally responsible for their deceptions (i.e. thrown in jail forever and fined so much that (...) (20 years ago, 11-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) Hey, we wouldn't be paranoid if the rest of the world didn't hate Freedom™ and Democracy™ so much. And only 51% of the population confirmed that idiot for the Whitehouse. If I'd had my way, not only would he be fired from the job, but his (...) (20 years ago, 12-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Victories for smokefree ballot initiatives
 
(...) What, and deprive future generations the ability to see what a Great Job™ he did??? ROSCO (20 years ago, 12-Nov-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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