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(...) Bollocks. Most of the problems of the third world countries that are doing poorly are attributable to lack of the rule of law, and lack of enforceable property rights in those countries. Claiming it's the first world's fault is, frankly, a (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Snip onerous list, but look out, I've gone long again. (...) There is no doubt that rule of law and property rights are problems in some places. As are local tinpots (which the first world tends to prop up in the name of trade which abhors (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Other countries such as Saudi Arabia, or any of the other oil-rich nations? Seems to me that we are directly responsible for the enrichment of these nations by our consumption. But back to the terrorists. First, let's dispense with the notion (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I try to offer alternatives; I can't help it if you are not open to them! Do I have to offer alternatives? I'm not sure I do. Example: If I catch you having sex with your cat; do I have to offer you an alternative in order to suggest you stop? (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mmmmm. Oil rich countries like Iran and Iraq? And there is no doubt that a great deal of money is paid for natural resources, the question is whether the pricing and process is fair, and whether it leaves these countries better off or not. (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So you think that the oil wealth is distributed equally per capita? That's remarkably Socialist of you, John, but it's not the reality. The state (states, really, seven of 'em) where wealth distribution on public projects is greatest is the (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But it is achieved by force. JOHN (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You mean like in Israel/Palestine? Or do you mean like in WW1? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, the peace that came from force in the Soviet union for approximately 40ish years. That worked real well. Dave K (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) First, Israel's restraint has perpetuated the conflict with the Palestinians. The conflict could have easily been ended as far back as in 1967 after the victory in the 6 Day War. WWI is a classic example illustrating my point. There was no (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Tell that to the dead women and children on both sides. (...) "Civilized nations" do not continue (or start) a war when there is a non-violent alternative. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I'd cite WWI as a great example of what Ross was getting at: Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. The key word you are missing is "kept". If there ever was a lack of understanding destined not to (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I think in FMJ, 8-Ball is shot in the leg. (...) John, your blind support for Israel, despite the "facts on the ground", is rather unsophisticated. In this group I have already shown you how Israel is a belligerent power which is currently led by an (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, and am I to suppose that your blind support for terrorism is sophisticated? Please. (...) And I pointed out that, even if you want to label Sharon in such a way, he is an elected official who will soon be gone; the true criminal and (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, don't drag (URL) Spider-Man> into this. Dave! (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Flibbity Floo! I thought I came up with that! (URL) is nothing new under the sun> JOHN (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No need to be a pottymouth about this. (...) I just didn't want you to be accused of plagiarism. 8^) (...) Hmm. And here I thought that was (URL) Pete Seeger>. 8^) Dave! (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) hehe Good point. I should, at this juncture, point out that "Flibbity Floo™" is an expression coined by Dana Carvey AFAIK:-) Hear that, Scott? (...) Good one! (And I thought it was The Byrds;-) JOHN (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) Ahhh, I remember those marvelous Ditko Spider-Man comics of my youth! No one drew like him. Oops, sorry, digressing on a digression... -->Does Whatver a Spider Can<-- (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ...and I thought the (URL) monkey theory> had been proven wrong! ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That is rather offensive. I won't even bother to ask you to justify your statement. (...) That argument has some merit; I just can't remember you ever using it until today(?). Is any living man responsible for the murder of more civilians than (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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