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Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
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Sat, 29 May 2004 17:43:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote:


   Do you feel better that the wealth of your lifestyle (and mine) was created by destruction of other countries’ economies sponsored by your country

Other countries such as Saudi Arabia, or any of the other oil-rich nations? Seems to me that we are directly responsible for the enrichment of these nations by our consumption.

But back to the terrorists. First, let’s dispense with the notion that Islamic Wahabi extremists give a rat’s ass about social justice. They want their extremist views of Islam accepted over the whole world. They are not only our enemy, but the enemy of Muslims as well.

Frankly, your blather about the evils of the US sound strikingly familiar. Perhaps I should ask: Do you agree with what the Islamic terrorists are doing, and if not, why not?

And even as a larger question. If you and I are so oppressive to the third world, what exactly do you think should be done about it? Because quite frankly, I find people like you and SA who only complain and criticize but offer no solutions, ideas, or alternatives superciliously annoying.

JOHN



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  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) I try to offer alternatives; I can't help it if you are not open to them! Do I have to offer alternatives? I'm not sure I do. Example: If I catch you having sex with your cat; do I have to offer you an alternative in order to suggest you stop? (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Mmmmm. Oil rich countries like Iran and Iraq? And there is no doubt that a great deal of money is paid for natural resources, the question is whether the pricing and process is fair, and whether it leaves these countries better off or not. (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) So you think that the oil wealth is distributed equally per capita? That's remarkably Socialist of you, John, but it's not the reality. The state (states, really, seven of 'em) where wealth distribution on public projects is greatest is the (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) "Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
 
(...) Snip onerous list, but look out, I've gone long again. (...) There is no doubt that rule of law and property rights are problems in some places. As are local tinpots (which the first world tends to prop up in the name of trade which abhors (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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