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| (...) Mmmmm. The same is said of the Israelis. The same was probably said of the Russians, the Japanese, the Catholic Irish, before that the French and the Scots, and an illustrious list back to the Saracens and beyond. No doubt there are some who (...) (20 years ago, 23-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) More BS moral equivalence. (...) Specious. To my knowledge, none of your examples had ever categorically sworn as the foundation of their existence the complete destruction of a particular enemy. Let's cut to the chase, and let me ask you (...) (20 years ago, 23-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I wasn't actually saying that at all, although I'd happily agree that you could a sense of moral equivalence. But I wasn't commenting on your odd morality, or even the American revived doctrine of pre-emptive self-defense. I was simply (...) (20 years ago, 25-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote: (snip) (...) So what? Doesn't mean anything. (...) Say again? We "fought" them on every front imaginable- Korea, Viet Nam, the Cold War. Nobody recognized any "common humanity" in the USSR, only the (...) (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) What do you mean "if"? (...) So why did Israel help establish Hamas? What about the right-wing Israeli terrorist groups? (...) There will never be peace as long as the killing persists on both sides. Your one sided view of this situation is (...) (20 years ago, 26-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I do not consider a society "peaceful" or "peace-loving" if they condone the sending of their citizens to commit cold-blooded murder. Honestly, I'd admire their conviction and resolve a lot more if the suicide bombers killed only themselves in (...) (20 years ago, 27-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Let's leave the IDF out of this! (...) What do you think makes them want to kill? Perhaps stories like (URL) this>. (...) What is more important to people like Sharon: Land or Peace? (...) What about Sharon. Is he a "Ghandi"? (...) Why is (...) (20 years ago, 27-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) So Sharon does not bomb their homes? He does not fire rockets at them? Scott A (20 years ago, 29-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) The right wing Israeli group Ateret Cohanim “is the spiritual focus for the return of Jews to their homes in the "Moslem" (once known as the Mixed) Quarter.” (i.e. this group, supported by Sharon, is engaged in ethnic cleansing). Where does it (...) (20 years ago, 31-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | | | subtleties of diplomatic language (was Re: Sheikh Yassin)
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| (...) (URL) 50 retired US diplomats> think Bush and Sharon are part of the problem; On Bush: "Your unabashed support of Sharon's extra-judicial assassinations, Israel's Berlin-Wall-like barrier, its harsh military measures in occupied territories (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Well, let's be pragmatic about this. If Dubya complains about Sharon's choice to defy worldwide consensus and employ unilateral military intervention, then Dubya can hardly maintain his Straussian "invade them all and let Rumsfeld sort them (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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