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Re: More of the Usual Lies
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Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:14:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
   1. Is it true that the Bin Ladens have had business relations with you and your family off and on for the past 25 years?

Old, but extremely important news for most U.S. idiots.

   2. What is the ‘special relationship’ between the Bushes and the Saudi royal family?

Not new, important.

   3. Who attacked the US on September 11 - a guy on dialysis from a cave in Afghanistan, or your friend, Saudi Arabia?

The case has not yet really been made against OBL -- of course, he has also vanished without a trace. Maybe they never really wanted to “get him” in the first place?

What are the logical conclusions if one assumes that the Saudis did it instead? I’d say that it’s at least possible that Shrub is in on the conspiracy, however crazed that may seem at first blush. But why would he want that? Well, he did need an excuse to go after Iraq -- and we know that the D.C. neocons have been plotting a move against Iraq from long before 9-11.

BTW, that the Saudis were mounting a serious military strike against the U.S. stretches credulity. What they wanted was to scandalize the U.S. in order to manipulate the people from a standpoint of FUD. In such an irrational climate the Afghanistan deal (big pipe) and Iraq oil grabs could be covered as attacks against perceived enemies of the U.S.

   4. Why did you allow a private Saudi jet to fly around the US in the days after September 11 and pick up members of the Bin Laden family and fly them out of the country without a proper investigation by the FBI?

Well, obviously to get anyone involved out of the country. And let’s face it, these people are wealthy enough to not care if they never come back to the U.S. Simultaneously, they are rich enough to come and go at their pleasure under a variety of easily purchased false IDs.

Even if you disbelieve that rationale, it’s pretty clear that such a group would likely have become the target of angry americans out to get Bin Ladens everywhere. The timing is interesting though -- did they know that OBL would become the “terrorist” fall guy?

I like the multi-millionaire thing too...

One does have to wonder why a multi-millionaire, like OBL, cares enough in his sickness to go after the U.S. -- a country that trained and creeated him in Afghanistan, a country that houses his family members and allows them to become even richer. Something doesn’t quite add up there. An obvious ally becomes a hated enemy? Why?

BTW, looks like MM is cribbing a lot of stuff from Greg Palast in the U.K, not that I think he minds.

But you can forget about any of this making a difference in the U.S. This is a land of fiction, where the star of “True Lies” can become governor and maybe president.

-- Hop-Frog



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Under CURRENT law, Ahnold can't become president, right? He is foreign born. Not that that will stop him - someone else is currently trying to change that (probably specifically FOR him)... (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home (21 years ago, 10-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I know that MM isn't held with much credbility in these here circles, but 'Dude, where's my country?' may hopefully restore some... (URL) which questions are asked and researched-- " 1. Is it true that the Bin Ladens have had business (...) (21 years ago, 10-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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