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Re: A small rant...
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Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:45:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:


   Those that risk nothing for freedom do not value it or the sacrifices of those that did. In other words, the Iraqis needed to decide their own fate.

Richard had made this point a while ago elsewhere and I admit that its truth gave me pause. I still think that liberating the Iraqis was a morally good thing to do, but I agree that we cannot force them to accept Freedom and Democracy. It is chilling, sad, downright incontheivable that such a gift wouldn’t be totally embraced.

   Have you seen how your version of ‘democracy’ is doing right now? Let’s play a game--let’s ask people around the world whether they want to be a insert their country here or an American.

That would be a poll I’d love to see.

Why make it a game? Just look at the numbers. Which country has the most people trying to get to her shores?

   Riots in the streets, fighting, killing, looting, xenophobic views of the rest of the world... I can see why people would love to embrace your values.

Xenophobic views of the rest of the world???? Let’s talk about your skewed perception of the US first!

JOHN



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  Re: A small rant...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: (snip) (...) At this time of the year, I'd venture The Bahamas. And what a complete country it is! Not only they have shores, but also off-shores... :-) Pedro (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) Yeah, that's always been a bit confusing. Americans don't like others, the country is built on the backs of those "others" that came here...etc. (...) See above. Americans are xenophobic. Especially now. I could attribute that to the majority (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) Let's talk about the plusses of socialism. Let's talk about the minuses of capitalism. Let's talk about the problems with Constitutionalism Let's talk about the 'best democracy that money can buy'. (...) Dave K (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) Have you seen how your version of 'democracy' is doing right now? Let's play a game--let's ask people around the world whether they want to be a insert their country here or an American. That would be a poll I'd love to see. Riots in the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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