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Re: Oh wait--Rummy explains all in the 'sound bite' of the year...
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Sat, 7 Jun 2003 18:14:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Look, before the war there wasn’t ANYBODY who doubted that SH had WMD. It
was a given; period. There is documented proof that he used them on the
Kurds and killed them by the 100,000s for crying out loud! So all of this
“where are the WMD” is so disingenuous it’s disgusting. Whether they all
have been destroyed by the Iraqis already is entirely moot!
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Not much of a memory, have you Mr. Neal? Many here doubted the WMD evidence
from the first.
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Oh, really? Then why was the UN sending weapons inspectors into Iraq in the
first place? Not much of a memory, Mr Marchetti. They went to verify that
weapons were destroyed, not to verify whether they existed or not.
Who is “we”?
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all laughed at Colon Powell’s poor performance before the
U.N. (there are even sources that claim he was angry at the doctored evidence
he was suppose to present - tsk, tsk).
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Cites? Or are you merely repeating rumor or wishful thinking?
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Dr. Arthur, Kooties, and myself (to
name the few I am certain of) all questioned the veracity of the claims
surrounding the issue of WMD.
We didn’t doubt that the U.S. had previously sold Iraq chemical agents, we
doubted that they were still useful in terms of their limited shelf-life.
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Please provide cites that those chemicals came from our government. I’ll bet
you can’t because they didn’t. (but try checking France or Germany. William
Safire wrote a blistering piece that attests to this fact)
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The main reason for going into Iraq was TO DEPOSE SADDAM HUSSEIN.
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WMD was the sole criteria by which
the war could be justified to the U.N., the world, and even the American
people.
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That is simply A LIE.
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BTW, where is Saddam? I’m so glad he was captured and brought to justice...
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The point is that I know where he isn’t.
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Shrub made it sound like we were in imminent danger, and it’s becoming
clearer that we were not. Deal with it.
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We didn’t feel too threatened on Sept 10th, 2001 either. We will never know
what unspeakable crimes we thwarted by deposing SH.
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Honestly, I am surprised they haven’t fabricated/planted the evidence! Maybe
too many eyes are watching.
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That only betrays the depths of your bigoted POV...
And what if we find them. What are you prepared to admit? Nothing, because you
are a partisan hack.
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Even I would prefer to think our president is better than this -- but it’s
not looking really good right now. Do you think I want the U.S. to look like
a criminal before the world?
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Are you kidding me??? You and every partisan liberal would love nothing better
than for GWB to come crashing down-- with or without the US in tow. You’d
love for the US lead by conservatives to look as bad as possible in this time!
Your dishonesty is sad.
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That’s why I opposed the war in the first
place, the evidence was not in and did not seem very trustworthy. The last
thing I want is to give people another reason to hate the U.S., terrorism is
still very much an issue and this wag the dog story hasn’t helped -- it has
perhaps hurt us irrevocably.
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This is what you and other liberals just can’t seem to get-- the world hates us
regardless of what we do. In the eyes of the world, we are in a lose-lose
situation. Deal with that. It is not our job to please the world, but to
preserve our Republic. The dirty little secret is that as we prosper, so
prospers the world.
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I just hope that the people of the world understand that we U.S. citizens are
just as much hostage to our leaders stupid decisions as they are hostage to
their respective leaders’ stupid decisions. We mere voters are hardly in the
“driver’s seat” of political power.
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Spoken like a true patriot....not.
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Sadly, the many polls I keep hearing about put me in the minority.
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Think about that for a moment.
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If the world believes the polls, most americans basically don’t care if the
war was justified. I think Shrub is relying on that fact.
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That’s because the reason was so painfully clear. SH was a madman who was in
control of WMD and was sympathetic to terrorists. The solution was obvious.
Remove him. We did. The Iraqis thank us. We did the world a service, whether
they appreciate it or not.
JOHN
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