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Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush?
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Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:47:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:


What I would like is for someone to explain why this action was fine for
Clinton but outrageous for President Bush, or is it that the Left is just a
bunch of partisan, self-serving hypocrites.


I expect part of the problem is that 911 has shown that the USA is both
vulnerable and is part of a larger global community with real people in it.

The problem isn't that we are an open society that is vulnerable to terrorism,
it is that there are those who choose to take advantage of that openess-- using
freedom as a cowardly way of expressing their hatred and intolerance.

Your fellow countrymen have woken up to the fact that whilst they may feel
that the USA stands for "freedom", for others is stands for the exact
opposite. They may want to sort that before the bomb a nation into a state of
"freedom".

I don't think so.  How *specifically* does American freedom *oppress* others
(unless you are talking about "religious oppression" ie our freedom is an
afront to Muslims in general, which I understand, though condemn as hateful
intolerance).

What I would like you to explain why you think Bush is right?

I would argue that military action is completely justified WRT to res 1441
violations.  Clinton thought so as well, and he bombed the hell out of Bagdad
for 70 straight hours for the *very same reason*.  My question was where was
the outrage then, especially in the light of the Left's outrage today
anticipating Bush's actions.  It seems duplicitous at best, mindless
partisanship at worst.

JOHN



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(...) It's not so much "American freedom" as "America". To many middle-eastern people, the US is synonomous with 'evil jerks'. Regardless of whether or not it's a justified assessment, that's what many think. I think the point was that people in (...) (22 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I expect part of the problem is that 911 has shown that the USA is both vulnerable and is part of a larger global community with real people in it. Your fellow countrymen have woken up to the fact that whilst they may feel that the USA stands (...) (22 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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