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| | | THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. As I speak to you America's men and women in uniform, and our British allies, are fighting for security, peace and freedom in the Persian Gulf. They're doing an outstanding job, showing bravery and skill, making our (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —David Koudys
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| | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Hmmm, let me search my faulty recollection--was there a war against Iraq in '98? Hmmm... not so much. Did the Democrats get some sort of peaceful worked out solution to the problem? Was (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) We bombed Bagdad with 500 cruise missles-- call it what you will. (...) We bombed Bagdad with 500 cruise missles-- would you call that "peaceful"? (...) Hmmm, We bombed Bagdad with 500 cruise missles.... (...) If you are referring to the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | | (...) But then again, they can argue they were "balancing things up" after giving the Israelis the Bomb. Because they did that... just to spite the US! What the French were not expecting was Eisenhower's (?) change of ideas on the matter (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —David Koudys
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| | | | | | (...) War? Troops sent in to fight? Was Clinton building up the forces, daring Saddam to 'slip up even just a little bit'? (...) I would if I could, but there's a tinpot dictator in charge of that country that, so the rumours go, is more of a (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) Hey, I may be a self-serving hypocrite, but I'm no partisan! You ask a great question, which I've heard in a few other venues, and which bears a good examination. I'll offer what insights I can. 1. Immediacy: Milosovic was at the time of the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | (...) I don't even understand the question. Wasn't Clinton the best Republican president we ever had? The "Left" is not democrat. If you're going to go off into idiot-land, at least ask the intelligent questions. Bush is not capable of clever (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | (...) I expect part of the problem is that 911 has shown that the USA is both vulnerable and is part of a larger global community with real people in it. Your fellow countrymen have woken up to the fact that whilst they may feel that the USA stands (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) The problem isn't that we are an open society that is vulnerable to terrorism, it is that there are those who choose to take advantage of that openess-- using freedom as a cowardly way of expressing their hatred and intolerance. (...) I don't (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) It's not so much "American freedom" as "America". To many middle-eastern people, the US is synonomous with 'evil jerks'. Regardless of whether or not it's a justified assessment, that's what many think. I think the point was that people in (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | (...) Why don't you please note the actual speech, the actual circumstances and then we can compare and contrast it with Bush, instead of this partisan, self-serving attack? And why do I get the feeling that you lifted this "speech" from some (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —John Neal
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| | | | (...) Apology accepted: (URL) circumstance was the announcement of Operation Desert Fox, beginning December 19th, 1998. JOHN (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) Whoa! That changes my answer, too. When I read it I thought it was for action against Milosovic, which I've also heard as a point of comparison to the present Bush frenzy. My assessment of the difference between the Milosovic ouster and the (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | (...) And I may add that there are two entirely different scenarios here--Blix hasn't once said that he was at an empasse. Sure there has been 'slow down' but he hasn't given up on the inspection process. Further, Clinton didn't invade Iraq with (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) No, the situation is exactly the same. But we have the benefit of hindsight to see that Saddam was just jerking the UN inspections off during the Clinton Adminstration. And Clinton acted, and rightly so. (...) Brace yourself for his report (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Glad to hear it, because I read your post 3 times trying to make sense of it and giving you the benefit of the doubt:-) Basically, Clinton was in the same situation Bush is in now-- facing Saddam's non-compliance with UN resolutions. Clinton (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | (...) Okay then, we can sweep the "It's all the Left's fault" verbiage aside. Desert Fox was in response to Iraq expelling the UN Inspectors, and the response was far less than the full-scale invasion that Bush is threatening as a unilateral action (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) FACT: Iraq did not expel the UN Inspectors [some of whom were spooks] – they were withdrawn. (...) FACT: Iraq did not expel the UN Inspectors [some of whom were spooks] – they were withdrawn. (...) I doubt there is one, the recent OBL tape (...) (21 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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