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Re: Comparative freedom
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:24:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Pedro Silva writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > >
> > > > > What else--oh, we're not beholden to a piece of paper written 200+ years
> > > > > ago. We make our own laws 'n such for what we need them to be, for us
> > > > > citizens living *now* :p
> > > >
> > > > I'm not impressed by a country that had to ask the permission of a Queen to
> > > > conduct it's own business. Give me the 200+ year old document that told the
> > > > royalty to bugger off!
> > >
> > > Actually, they did not told the Queen to bugger off... because they did not
> > > have to; they got their own PM instead. Given that the Crown has little (if
> > > any) effective power, it is even better: getting independent whilst assuring
> > > a powerful friend (1).
> >
> > David (no "!") understood what I was refering to - technically everything
> > Canada did was supposed to be approved by the Queen until that last vestige
> > of empire was officially expunged a couple of decades ago. I was
> > embarrassed for my Canadian friends until then.
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> Yes, Pedro was right--Quebec did not want to 'bring the constitution home'
> for they could appeal to a highter authority than the Canadian Supreme court
> if they were denied something from the Supreme Court. The separatists
> wanted a higher authority if they wver got around to winning their
> separatist referendum. More than likely the Canadian Supreme court would
> deny the separation, and therefore the separatists could appeal to someone
> else to make the separation all 'leagal-like'.
Evidentily, no one was paying attention on how to successfully pull off a
revolution. Wimps! :-)
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> I personally wouldn't want the separation to happen--I'd rather work at the
> root issue of why my brothers and sisters in La Belle Province feel like
> they're not getting their fair due in the best country in the world--but
> that's a story for another time.
Oh, alright, I don't particularly want to see Canada broken up either
(Canadians are too darn peaceful - ya shoulda shot DeGaul when you had the
chance) - but if the west coast of the US was to split off that would be
cool.....
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> But we did get our constitution in '82. So there you are.
In an embarrassing fashion, though. Put a bag over your collective heads.
> >
> > > Had the USA chosen the same path, and they wouldn't have had a Civil War.
> > > Thinking of which, the Canadian Way may actually have been a good way,
> > > wouldn't you say? (2)
> >
> > What worked for Canada wasn't going to work for the U.S. We just weren't
> > wimpy enough. ;-)
>
> Sometimes, nay, most times, in the long run, the stronger, smarter, better
> person is the one who doesn't throw a punch. Evolution, as another thread
> went on about, is the path of choice for the fittest ;)
Don't start the evolution argument again! No, no, no!
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> >
> > Nor were we worried about a counter-revolution by the French and the
> > necessity for support from the Crown in maintaining what we swiped from
> > another European power. :-O
> >
> > Bruce
> > (just teasing....)
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> Yes, thank goodness the 'Mericans didn't go thru a revolution every time the
> wind changed direction ;)
But we have all these guns just in case. We love throwing a party!
>
> As for swiping from another European power--don't get the reference, but
> Canada didn't swite anything
Canada...homage to English Crown...French people forced into this by
invading British...voted on peacefully, I'm sure. :-)
Bruce
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