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(...) Why not? This assertion has been made in this and other antitrust trials but has not been justified. I see nothing wrong with it. It benefits everyone to get more efficient products. There are no barriers to entry, so dominance is due to (...) (23 years ago, 24-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would contend that it _is_ a barrier to entry. No other application producer has the same access to the OS. The efficiency accrues from interactions between the OS and application packages, as much as from any inherent superiority in the (...) (23 years ago, 24-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nothing is stopping anyone else from writing a better OS. Novell tried. IBM tried. Novell tried buying one from AT&T... (...) Nothing is stopping any hardware vendor from not installing it and going with a different OS, or any end consumer (...) (23 years ago, 24-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, another couple of points. 1. It's not about the OS, whatever the merits of DOS/Windows//NT. It's about producing the OS _and_ the application software (whatever the merits of the Office suite). By developing both the platform and the (...) (23 years ago, 24-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <text circumcision...snippy, snippy!> (...) Hit... (URL) run! Matt (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, yes, yes, it does. But I'm still sort of missing how that's a bad thing. By developing both the engine and the transmission that 90% of users want, already preengineered to work together, GM, Ford, Daimler, Toyota, et al gain a massive (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fortunately, that's satire. We have to protect the rights of all religious adherents, even those as confused about cosmology and stuff as Mac users... UNFortunately, as of Monday, Know your Customer, Carnivore email spying and Sneak and peek (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Whoops. Let me apologise in advance, the FUT was set to fun and I missed that. Sorry peeps. My bad. FUT re-set back to .debate (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and are sub-human enough to actually *want* to do *anything* with a Falcon...8?) And how many more twists is this thread gonna take???!!!??? ROSCO (fanning the flames of the Ford-Holden fire[1] after watching the Bathurst race the other (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) <Bubba Joe-Bob> Cosmology? What's girly make-up got's ta' do wit' anahthin'? You sayin' I'm *GAY* 'er sumptin', boy? Well, are ya'? </Bubba Joe-Bob> Matt (Who once again ISN'T drawn into the Macintosh vs. Windows debate, being comfortably (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I drove one, I didn't think they were THAT bad, but I never go to drive a Holden. Generally, GM sucks compared to Ford (we're Honda/Chrysler at our place) but I'm willing to concede Holden may have gotten it right. *Somebody* likes doing stuff (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) You forget. I was *AT* NASA (posted about how I got to see the moonrocks up close and the ACRV and stuff). Some of those guys are fighting to keep ANY computer. NASA is run on a shoestring. It's amazing how much they manage to achieve with so (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) The Holden/Ford war has nothing to do with how bad either is. It's more like a religious war 8?) (...) Mmmmmm. Double rear axle... And roo bars don't only work for roos... (...) At least we didn't have a fad of two-tone station wagons... (...) (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Or I'm missing why it's not a bad thing... ;^) (...) Huge snip, while I actually print out Larry's post and think about it (scary stuff). In the meantime, where did you pick up Holden "Commie"? Did someone from Australia actually say that or (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Like this: (URL) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Indeed. Need to dig into the "why" of that, because just about everything you've posted as a disadvantage I see as an advantage! (...) I heard "commo" and "commie" a lot while I was there. Even the Holden guy at the torch relay ceremony Holden (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) and typically Strine too (eg brekkie=breakfast, kindie=kindergarten). I'd never heard it before: as far as I knew "commo" and "commie" exclusively referred to communist. Ross mentioned the Holden vs Ford clan rivalry -- maybe that satisfies (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Including things like this: (URL) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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