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Re: When is it appropriate to "take it to email" and when isn't it?
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Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:20:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
Some good discussion but nobody answered this question the way I expected,

Aint diversity wonderful? 8?)

perhaps because I was a bit too subtle in trying hard to disengage from a
particular situation (and Tim, you get marked down because you didn't stay
general... :-) )

Are you disappointed because you didn't get the answer you expected? Or just
surprised?

When is this not an appropriate thing to do? Can you, the advocates of that
course of action, come up with examples of when it isn't? Why isn't it in
those cases? (or, alternatively, are you saying that "taking it to email" is
ALWAYS the correct course no matter how bad the social transgression or how
one sided it might be?)

I expected someone to answer "when it is obvious that taking it to email is
not going to do any good either" and the example I had in mind was the
massive disruptiveness of our spoofer.

ROSCO, you said "always".

Um, careful with the out-of-context quotes, Larry. I said "always a reasonable
course of action". I then went on to point out that it's not always the right
course of action, the obvious example being when a discussion is taken to
email, and the participants don't get anything further positive from it.

Can you explain to the group what benefit
continuing the flamefest with MM via email (as contrasted with shunning)
would have had to *anyone* other than MM, who would have been gettting his
jollies over it?

You've made an assumption here about MM's reasons for posting. Many probably
agree. My jury's still out on it. I've now had several email discussions with
MM, some arising from threads on Lugnet, some not. Most are short, maybe
because I haven't responded to his prods, but then his prods have been minimal
- the discussions have been what I'd consider "fairly normal".

So I guess the answer is "if you feel you can't continue the discussion without
flaming, best not to continue the discussion at all" (didn't Thumper say
something like that?). But that doesn't preclude you from continuing the
discussion...

The appropriate response, IMHO, was the response that was taken by almost
everyone... Shunning, followed by administratively enforced ostracism.

Pretty much the approach put forward here
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=9268 except I had an additional step in
between - email the people involved. THEN enforced ostracism only if they
continue - temporary only though.

ROSCO



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(...) Sure. Let me clarify the above. If we consider a spectrum of discourse from perfectly normal well intentioned fact and issue centric debate at one end, on through somewhat worse all the way to vitriolic insult orient fact free flamage at the (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: When is it appropriate to "take it to email" and when isn't it?
 
Some good discussion but nobody answered this question the way I expected, perhaps because I was a bit too subtle in trying hard to disengage from a particular situation (and Tim, you get marked down because you didn't stay general... :-) ) (...) I (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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