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Re: When is it appropriate to "take it to email" and when isn't it?
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Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:06:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In another thread...in lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes:

The point of this thread starting was not for you two to start it up again,
please take your differences offline.

I would like to dig into this notion a bit more. I think there are
situations where it is flatly incorrect to advocate this. I want to stay out
of the particular situation that provoked the request and not use it as an
example, but I would like to discuss the principle.

Ok.

So I started a new thread.

:)

Here is the question to those that seem to advocate "taking it to email"
whenever one or more parties to a discussion seem to go out of the bounds of
normal discourse:

When is this not an appropriate thing to do? Can you, the advocates of that
course of action, come up with examples of when it isn't? Why isn't it in
those cases? (or, alternatively, are you saying that "taking it to email" is
ALWAYS the correct course no matter how bad the social transgression or how
one sided it might be?)

I think in so answering you will form the basis for a fruitful discussion
about norms of behaviour.

Well, ask yourself:

Does my post, or my argument with this person, needlessly take away from the
enjoyment of other users?
Is this debate unnecessarily flooding the group?
How many people am I currently engaged in argument with?
Has most of this debate already been hashed out?
Am I one of the only two people still lingering on this topic?
How much have I beaten this topic to the ground?
Would other users' sanity benefit from this *not* continuing?

Those are quick ones that I just made up.  I think that beyond a certain
point, continuing like that in public is rude and immature - no matter who
is right.  But, where is that point, and where was that line crossed in this
case?  I think the line is fuzzy.  In this case, maybe the line was where
James posted, a few people agreed with him, and the two of you started up
again in that very thread.  I think sometimes discussions nitpicked to the
level we've seen here can damage a group, because it turns people off to
reading it and sends them away - diminishing the different people (and their
respective viewpoints) we see.

For the sake of keeping the community together, there should be a sense of
what is appropriate and what is not appropriate for a public forum.  In your
case, the issues seem to be pretty personal between you and Scott, so it
should be handled by just the two of you, and its unnecessary (and I say
annoying and damaging) to expose the rest of us to your disagreements.

Thanks for starting a new thread with this, and moving yourself away from
the issue :-)  I really appreciate that.  I hope this is a fruitful
discussion, and I hope that people can come up with more examples, so we
aren't dwelling on the situation.

-Tim



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"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GFBCqy.Dw1@lugnet.com... (...) that (...) is (...) how (...) the (...) this (...) their (...) your (...) I think you should also start thinking even more carefully when others start emailing (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I would like to dig into this notion a bit more. I think there are situations where it is flatly incorrect to advocate this. I want to stay out of the particular situation that provoked the request and not use it as an example, but I would (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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