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    Re: A question of remembrance... —Shiri Dori
   In replying both to Richard and Dan - I agree. We all want peace, and naturally everyone's peace will be on different terms. We cannot change the past, but we can try and deal with what's here. I agree that Israel as it was formed was not a good (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
   Alsalaam aleikum! Shalom! (...) Actually, the Zionists WERE doing it out of greed and hoodwinked the mass of Holocaust victims worrying about a homeland. No real Jew would ever have supported invading someone's land, murdering, crippling and running (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Shiri Dori
   (...) Markhaban, Ahalan (wasahalan), hi, what's up :-) (My knowledge of Arabic consists of, umm, "Markhaban ya talamiz, Ana Mualima Ismi Salma", and, well, I forget the rest... since I left .il without taking high-school Arabic. If I had not had (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
   Alsalaam aleikum! Shalom! Regarding the link I gave you, perhaps you'll have to wait a little while and try back again. It's something worth reading. More bloodshed today, more Palestinians dead, more excuses from Israel. I'm glad that you at least (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Richard Marchetti
     (...) I am perfectly willing to give you the last word, Dan -- but tell me this: what do you propose should happen if you got everything you wanted? I don't want a fantasy, answer with what you would do tomorrow if "fixing" the situation were up to (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
   An addendum to my previous posts regarding the Israeli occupation: Although I have used the term "Palestinian" repeatedly to describe the Arabs of that area, I realize that there are certain inaccuracies with the term. The root word is (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
     Another addendum to my last post: (...) What I meant to say: There isn't a violent "Palestinian" action against Israeli civilians on record since the creation on Israel that matches the Massacre of Deir Yassin. My apologies, I am usually more (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
     Yet another addendum: (...) I mean "of" Israel not "on." Never type tired... Dan (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Lindsay Frederick Braun
   (...) I hadn't thought about the etymology, odd! Even odder, when considering that the inhabitants of Philistia were Mycenaean Greeks displaced by the Dorian Invasions of c. 800BC. :) I do wonder, then, how much of their genetics and culture ended (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Bruce Schlickbernd
   (...) Kind of an obtuse way of saying "forgotten" or "ignored". :-) Bruce (for the younger, Michael Collins was the Astronaut from the Apollo 11 moon mission that didn't walk on the moon) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Dave Schuler
     (...) Actually, I was thinking Lindsay was trying to start up another Liam Neeson movie controversy. Dave! (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: A question of remembrance... —Lindsay Frederick Braun
     (...) Heh, actually, that's an interesting link I hadn't thought of. I wonder if we can work Darkman in here too? LFB (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: A question of remembrance... —Dave Schuler
     (...) And let's not forget Krull. Oh wait. On second thought, let's! Dave! (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: A question of remembrance... —Lindsay Frederick Braun
     (...) Ack! Purged from the memory banks. What else have I forgotten? LFB (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Lindsay Frederick Braun
   (...) Nope. Wrong Michael Collins. See below, it's not obtuse at all. (...) Actually, that's a different Michael Collins. The one I'm thinking of was the one sent in 1922 by Eamon de Valera to negotiate the Good Friday Agreement that created the (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A question of remembrance... —Bruce Schlickbernd
   (...) So, you forgot about the Astronaut? You're just proving my point! ;-) Bruce (sheesh, I shoulda known it was a more esoteric answer...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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