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Re: A question of remembrance...
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Mon, 7 May 2001 21:10:31 GMT
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Alsalaam aleikum! Shalom!
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Shiri Dori writes:
> On the other hand, you had a couple of millions of survivors emerging from a
> world war in which they had been opressed, and were worried that the same thing
> will happen again. They wanted a solution. YES, they played on world
> sympathies, but NO, they weren't doing it out of greed or deception.
Actually, the Zionists WERE doing it out of greed and hoodwinked the mass of
Holocaust victims worrying about a homeland. No real Jew would ever have
supported invading someone's land, murdering, crippling and running them
out, bulldozing their homes and building shiny new resorts.
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org
> They were
> honestly worried, afraid for their existence, and they had a good reason to be
> afraid. Too bad they didn't find a big unsettled island to live in. They
> didn't, they came to Palestine, where they felt that they had a base. Perhaps
> they were wrong - even, most likely so.
No, I don't think the general Jewish public was wrong but they were misled
and misinformed by the Zionists and put in the middle of the crossfire. And
the Zionists are still at it. Your life is in their hands, if I'm not
mistaken. You have no choice but to serve in the military, though it is
obvious you don't want to.
> But what was done was done, and we can't turn the wheel back. (I think that's
> *one* thing we can't argue about! ;-) ... now Israel exists, and there are
> people like me who grew up there and love the country... to death... (no pun
> intended, right?)... unfortunately.
I want to say this as sincerely as I can... Think about what you just said
if you ever end up in the Israeli military and you're looking down the
barrel of your machine gun at a Palistinian stone-thrower and you are
ordered to fire.
> So now what do we do? How do we put the past behind us? Decades and centuries
> of hate, almost two millenia of anti-Jew sentiments...
I am sorry Shiri, but the whole "everyone hates the Jews" stuff is also a
concoction of the Zionists. Don't buy into the hype. There was a
brotherhood, the Zionists ruined it in favor of greed.
Dan
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| (...) Markhaban, Ahalan (wasahalan), hi, what's up :-) (My knowledge of Arabic consists of, umm, "Markhaban ya talamiz, Ana Mualima Ismi Salma", and, well, I forget the rest... since I left .il without taking high-school Arabic. If I had not had (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In replying both to Richard and Dan - I agree. We all want peace, and naturally everyone's peace will be on different terms. We cannot change the past, but we can try and deal with what's here. I agree that Israel as it was formed was not a good (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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