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Re: A question of remembrance...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 8 May 2001 17:51:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> > With any luck the hardcore Zionists won't be with us too
> > much longer--they, like the hard line of so many lands,
> > pass and moderation becomes possible. It takes brave people
> > to pave that way, and I'm convinced that many have not done
> > so for fear of being Michael Collins-ed (look him up) in the
> > end--
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> Kind of an obtuse way of saying "forgotten" or "ignored". :-)
Nope. Wrong Michael Collins. See below, it's not obtuse
at all.
> Bruce
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> (for the younger, Michael Collins was the Astronaut from the Apollo 11 moon
> mission that didn't walk on the moon)
Actually, that's a different Michael Collins. The one I'm
thinking of was the one sent in 1922 by Eamon de Valera to
negotiate the Good Friday Agreement that created the 16-county
Irish Free State. De Valera knew that the agreement wouldn't
satisfy the militants in his own movement, nor the British,
so he made sure to have a younger, more idealistic person
do it *for* him and thus be blamed when it proved to be less
than others wanted it to be.
In the end, Collins paid for it by being gunned down in an
ambush on his automobile not too long after the creation of
self-governing Ireland. That was the price he, Sadat, and
Rabin all paid for taking the bird in hand rather than
continuing with invective and gaining nothing.
best
LFB
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