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Tim: Thank-you. You got ahead of me, but I suppose that's ok. I wanted to reach some agreement on the basis for the debate before I began to present research. I will continue to go down that road, but your references should give them some food for (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you. (...) REVISED: 1) Do strata (layers of sediment) support a progressive, over millennia, approach which reveals the progression (simple forms leading to more complicated forms) of life through time? Or is there a better explanation (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Why not Both?
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(...) I should point out that this perspective has already been advanced many times and has been debunked and pretty much rejected. While it is intellectually stimulating, it misses the scientific evidence for creation that is indeed consistant with (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting proposition, and one I hold as a possibility. I am definitely in the camp of "evolution happens" (though I accept we may not have it quite right), but I also allow for the possibility that some outside force ("god" if you wish to (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Okay, since it's apparent that the overwhelming preponderance of scientific evidence will never convince the diehard Creationists of the fact of evolution, just as the utter non-existence of any pro-creation evidence will not sway critical-thinking (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Evolution - Impossible!
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(...) Really Bad Pseudo-Science designed to sway public opinion, not pass scientific inspection. Sophistry taken to a new level. Bruce (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, but you haven't named names in any thread in which you've participated. My objection isn't simply to your line of reasoning (which is a substantial objection, I grant you) but rather to your willful choice not to support your claims (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Problems with science and metaphysics
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(...) No, it's universal because any advanced (I'm speaking extra-terrestrial) society is going to come up with the exact same rules. Different languages, different morals, different outlooks, different values, but the math will be the same. Bruce (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I perfectly agree, as was my point, I think-- it's not NECESSARILY wrong, but I *think* it's wrong based on what I've seen... (...) That's kinda what I thought might be happening-- I.E. I'm taking the absolutest of theoretical arguments, (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: How much LEGO time is TOO much LEGO time?
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(...) A smiley that has glasses and a large nose? (as in he's sticking his nose in and peering around??) ++Lar (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I can see how you might take it that way... but I do have a rather brash style, long term readers know when I'm being actually emphatic. :-) However communication wasn't did, and the fault lies not with the reader. (...) I don't think we're (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ross Crawford <rcrawford@csi.com> wrote in message news:G7LMos.7no@lugnet.com... (...) What does 8?) meen? Gary (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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blessing <blessing@icefog.net> wrote in message news:G7JyBw.3IJ@lugnet.com... (...) and (...) Just trying to relieve the boredom a bit Gary. 8?) (...) ROSCO (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just following *your* lead. (...) You've been challenged on your extravagant claims of support or lack of support for either side many times by many people and have never offered any shred of proof. You'll continue to dodge the question. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G7LH2p.It4@lugnet.com... (...) a (...) but (...) Then perhaps you should have worded it "Todd should think about making the line between ....". It just sounded to me like you were (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not dictating. Not now, not ever. That (not dictating) is a longstanding and consistent position I've held, you can check back as far as you like... back to the very start of LUGNet(tm), and farther. Note that I distinguish between things (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
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I'm stepping out onto shaky ground here as I have to admit that I've only been sparatically(sp?) following the whole "Christianity/Darwin.../Religion" debate except I have been reading the "Macro Evolution" thread thoroughly- but I will now step in (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G7KAE9.MFt@lugnet.com... (...) I didn't (and don't) dispute your rights. (...) a (...) his (...) I don't accept that at all. Anyone who wants to express their opinion in a public forum (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Macro-Evolution - Impossible!
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Jon and Bruce are exasperating each other without getting very far, so I thought I'd go back to the beginning of the thread and look at Jon's original statements. I may be falling into his trap, that's OK. I've done it to him before so I guess it's (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No Bruce - give me a break - if you can't establish the basis for a discussion there is no discussion. I'll be glad to backup my claims when I make them. For the 4th time - Do you accept my statements as descriptive of the key questions of the (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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