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  Re: From Harry Browne
 
Chris wrote:(with snippage) (...) how (...) You _are_ doing that (educating the illiterate). You are _paying_ to do it with your time at another job rather than doing it directly. Don't try to say you are _not_ doing it, because you are. It is just (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Reality == fiction?
 
(...) Actually, I do to. But that "re-phrasing" isn't what he implied before. He suggested that "these" (the concepts under discussion) were jr. high level ideas and that we ought to simply agree with his obvious conclusion. That is a horse of a (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) suggests (...) I'd love to see this body of evidence. I would say that of the 2 countries which are freer with weapons (Swiss and Israel), that it is _training_ that makes the difference. It's not the body of people with guns, it is the fact (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's All Over...
 
(...) True. I don't dispute this. However a 1/30th of 1% lead is tenuous at best. (...) Perhaps, but that would take an amendment to the Constitution as a best-case scenario. Worst case being a re-write of the COnstitution which I don't believe is (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) I'm not fully prepared to defend this stance, since I'm not sure what he means either. However, it might be a reference to the body of evidence that suggests that _everywhere_ that guns become more accesible and free, the armed and violent (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Harry Browne
 
Oddly, I'm with both of you :-) (...) I don't think so. I think your life can be about many things, including both of those. They are in no way mutually exclusive. (...) Great! I, for one, am truely glad that you've hooked up with a system that (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Treacleheads (was Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database))
 
(...) Warning: exactly the kind of post that should go to .o-t.vent follows. So I've o-t.d'ed, but since this <treacley juggernaut> of a thread is still in .au, I'm not holding back. And I should say that I'm more than a bit <treacley>'d off with a (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's All Over...
 
(...) OK, I'll admit it - I may have jumped the gun in my sorrow :c) I remain *cautiously* optimistic, as I have heard they (the Democrats, and probably the Greens, too) have called for a recount. I guess this could take days, weeks, even *months* (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's All Over...
 
Timmy for President!!?? With the election this close a vote for Nader is a vote for Nader. Gore is winning the popular vote by 277,000 votes. Whoever wins Florida however, wins the Electoral vote and is thus the President no matter what the popular (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Harry Browne
 
I'm not going to reply to most of this, as I doubt we'd ever really reach a consensus. It really comes down to what your life is about: 1. Being a part of society 2. Or the accumulation of personal wealth. If you with the best way to succeed in life (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) Thanks! I agree. It *is* very charitable. (...) So am I. And I think my contributions, allocated by me, are more effective than yours, allocated by bureaucrats. (...) I suspect a typo, I think you meant to say "just not convinced"... because (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Harry Browne
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G3oEv3.H9y@lugnet.com... (...) I've (...) my (...) don't (...) Hmm this sounds very charitable. Personally, I quite happy to be a member of society, and contribute to it passively (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's All Over...
 
Ah, ah, ah! Don't say it's over until the final vote is counted. 630 votes difference in the state of Florida does not mean the election is over. You forget that the most Democratic areas of the state have yet to be counted. Popular vote does count. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Reality == fiction?
 
(...) Fair enough. I agree with the above. Clearly, some 8 year olds (not even mine, smarter than average that he is) don't have that sophistication. I'm sure we'd all agree with that as well. Taking that into account, and taking the relative (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Reality == fiction?
 
(...) Well, that's an even less tactful way of phrasing it than mine, but I'm afraid you're reading the statement fairly accurately. I'll rephrase: ---...--- A person who is unable to comprehend irony, and requires instances of satire to be labeled (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Something not right about Captain Ahnee and the Dipwads?
 
(...) Yes, thanks. By generalizing, you're shifting a beaten argument (by me as much as anyone) about a specific instance into a more socially relevant conversation. (...) On one level, I think it's important for us to understand as a society (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) I'm not convinced that's as big a problem as you might think. Think about it, every consumer protection regulation we have is there because enough people complained that the government addressed the issue. In a Libertopia, with it's free (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: From Harry Browne
 
(...) :) Well, you know, me and 65K other people too...and our bullets/black Oil&Beans (actually, right now it costs something upwards of $100K (CDN)/year for me, because of being full time student on government $) James (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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