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  What would a kid think? (Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego)
 
(...) David, I don't think it was 100% crystal clear that Eric wasn't being serious. If I didn't know Eric, and I didn't know that he wasn't married, and I didn't know that he was a swell guy anyway who would never advocate domestic violence, I (...) (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bridget
 
(...) I realize that, but torpedoes are not bullets, they are not powered by small explosions of compressed gas & plasma, and they are not solid slugs of metal... They are very complicated computerized machines. Now, if you are talking about (...) (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) of (...) Well said. Bruce (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) Umm, no. You and I traded a few posts about this, and I certainly don't wish the debate would "die"- not as long as there are Lugnet users who are interested in exchanging viewpoints about it. What I *do* wish is that people who don't want the (...) (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) Ok, whoa. Hold on there, bucko. 1) Grab a sense of humour from somewhere. 2) Take another look at all the things I mentioned. I did not even come *close* to saying that yellow representations of darker-skinned characters would be as repulsive (...) (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
"Damien Nesbit" <johnnobody@msn.com> wrote in message news:FzAvEv.36r@lugnet.com... (...) they (...) [...] (...) put (...) serioulsy (...) opinion (...) attempt (...) treatment (...) As you have stated, I understand that you have experience in a (...) (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) Eric, I seriously doubt that the yellow minifig is as repulsive as domestic violence. I think you cheapen your argument by reacting in that way to Bruce's assessment of TLC's position (as I understand his comments). That's TLC's position, not (...) (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
First, I have to say that I agree with practically everything that Dave Schuler Writes in post 6299. But, I have to point out some comments that i found to be disturbing. Dave Schuler writes that "It's fine for a bunch of us to sit around discussing (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
Greetings to all, Have been following this debate for a while and I thought I'd through in my 2 cents. Don't know if you guys are familiar with World Cup Soccer (I certainly am not), but it is definetly not a sport played exclusively by "white" (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) concept (...) I'm not sure that science has a definition for "race": my physical anthropology teacher thought "race" to be a lot of nonsense based on purely external appearance (but for all I know this is out of date). Perhaps with DNA (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
In lugnet.starwars, Bruce Schlickbernd writes: Bruce, I fully agree with most of your points, except the following: (...) Seen from a scientific point of view, these statements are incorrect (I know you didn't necessarily mean them to be view that (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) Right, and that's a good reason to keep it. This reminds me of the time when I was introduced to my arranged bride-to-be (my wedding day, of course). Apparently, the dowry her parents could offer was meager, but she said she would go out and (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) going (...) Yes, I questioned this earlier in this topic (quoting myself): "I have never seen ANYTHING from Lego that explains that this is their policy. Not here. Not on rec.toys.lego. Not in any of their sets. Not on their website. Not in (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) I agree. I am not going to respond to another one of Damien's posts, as he has become offensive and insulting. There is no need for racial slurs. Jason (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) I don't think they perceive of it as "race" so much as they perceive of it as they don't think it represents themselves. (...) I agree that "racial" differences are extremely subjective and based on appearance. We are all one race. Cultural (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) Uh, it's worth pointing out that the "yellow represents all races" thing is *not* the official TLC line. It's something that people have said to attempt to explain the fact that there are only yellow minifigs. eric (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My 2 cents on the future
 
Erik, Nice pics. My idea (which I haven't tried yet) involves painting a plain black head and then carefully scraping off the paint to form eyes, eyebrows, a mouth and other details as needed. Love the "animal masks." Great use of pieces! Dave Erik (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
In lugnet.starwars, David Low writes: (snipping intersting comments that stand fine without need of further comments from me) (...) yellow (...) are (...) I'm not convinced their needs to be a DSM (I'm just using the term out of convenience, BTW) (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
 
(...) and (...) I think the contrast between System minifigs and Duplo figs is important. Having Duplo figs with different flesh tones and different sizes reinforces for kids the importance of diversity. People are different colours and adults are (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My 2 cents on the future
 
(...) (DSM pics follow) Do it yourself: that's exactly what I did for "Juba", the character from the movie Gladiator. Several Johnny Thunder minifigs became test subjects. I made a pale one for Maximus. Thinking: it's dumb to leave Maximus yellow (...) (24 years ago, 13-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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