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Re: Concerns with Racial Attitudes and Lego
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:41:07 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Karim Nassar writes:
> In lugnet.starwars, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
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> Bruce, I fully agree with most of your points, except the following:
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> > We are all one race.
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> > Cultural differences, which are real, often get associated with "race", just
> > to confuse things.
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> Seen from a scientific point of view, these statements are incorrect (I know
> you didn't necessarily mean them to be view that way, but this is my POV).
> Race is a purely cultural distinction, and it is cultural biases that define
> it. We are not all one race and never will be until we abolish the very concept
> of race all together.
I'm not sure that science has a definition for "race": my physical
anthropology teacher thought "race" to be a lot of nonsense based on purely
external appearance (but for all I know this is out of date). Perhaps with
DNA sampling things have changed.
In any case, I was saying that race is primarily a cultural distinction,
similar to what you said.
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> For example, I know a professor who was born in America of Native Peruvian
> parentage. She was educated in the USA, and occasionally travels back to Peru.
> In Peru, there are two races: Indian, and White (those are more or less the
> terms that are used). Even though she is Native Peruvian by blood, she is
> classified in Peru as "white" (she's darker skinned than most "black" people I
> know). The reason? Because she is among the educated upper class, and in Peru,
> that is the primary means of "racial" distinction.
That happens pretty much everywhere where there is some social stigma attached
to being of a particular race while being upper class. I agree with your next
sentence below...
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> I would make the assertion that the same thing occurs here in America, if not
> as formally. I once had a friendly arguement with an african-american guy I
> know regarding race. He claimed that because most "white" people don't like to
> watch "black" TV shows, that they were all silently racist. When I pointed out
> that I loved to watch The Cosby Show, he replied that that show WAS NOT A BLACK
> TV SHOW!
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> --Karim
Couldn't really say - I only watched Bill Cosby when he was on "I, Spy". :-)
Bruce
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| In lugnet.starwars, Bruce Schlickbernd writes: Bruce, I fully agree with most of your points, except the following: (...) Seen from a scientific point of view, these statements are incorrect (I know you didn't necessarily mean them to be view that (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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