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  Re: Mormon bashing again
 
(...) And my point is only this, don't read anything else into it: If this one example of historic law had a major influence, where others didn't, I don't think it's wrong. The constitution forbids legislating in favor of or against any religion - (...) (25 years ago, 18-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
Law just changed. A seat belt infraction, if spotted, is enough reason for you to get pulled over in Michigan now. Sorry about that (I think it may have been March 1 that it changed) (25 years ago, 18-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) I'll again go back to what was written in the federalist papers. I plowed through them a few months back, so it's a fairly recent memory... I can't deny that there may have been other motives than the final check but that was the biggie, by a (...) (25 years ago, 18-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) Well said. Would that everyone were as reasonable as you. My theory is that in many issues we see convolution being used as a tool to usurp, because proponents on one side or another fear that a straight up and down question might: - resolve (...) (25 years ago, 18-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Mormon bashing again
 
(...) I've not been there, so I can't say what the circumstances are. But if they're posted in a way that implies primacy, rather than as one of many examples of laws, that's wrong. (...) Feel free to do so on your private property, but there's a (...) (25 years ago, 18-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) You should also research your locality's seat belt laws. In some states, the seat BELT is required, but not the shoulder strap. Maybe in yours too? (IMHO, a lot of shoulder straps are dangerous if you are shorter than the average male. Mine (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) Funny this conversation is going on right now. I just got a ticket for my son having his shoulder strap looped around the back of the seat. I just looked up the regs and this law is not enforceable unless I was pulled over for some other (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Due Process
 
Good example! (...) This sounds like a massive usurpation. (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) Today it is, because bad money (gov't charity) has driven out good (private charity). It used to be a pure charity decision, the hospital (if for profit) took a deliberate margin hit, or raised the money by charity drives. (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) Michigan has switched from secondary to primary, you can be stopped for just a seat belt infraction instead of the collateral damage (Has to be a second ticket) that CO uses. (...) Right... and that's one reason I support seat belt use, (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) Indeed. I was thinking of you when I used the aphorism. :-) Please quote me where I said the bible wasn't an interesting piece of literature, worthy of being read by all who would style themselves well read... :-) Where we differ is that I (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) A country can have socialist features and still not be Socialist. It's sort of like "Space" vs. "space"...capital-S has a very specific meaning, while small-s is more malleable. Semantics...with a small s. ;) <dredge...dredge...> best LFB (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Due Process
 
Job talk! (...) I think there's only one A^2. ;) He has his own firm--F. H. Herrmann & Assoc., I think, is still its name. (...) For the subdivision my uncle built, people from the architectural firm had to physically be on-site almost every (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: (Ten Commmandment discussion with School, etc.) Was: Re: Mormon bashing again
 
(...) Agreed. When people refuse or fail to be self-governed, then the government will take over that office. The U.S. government has over-legislated because a great many people have abdicated personal responsibility and duty. People fail to give (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: (Ten Commmandment discussion with School, etc.) Was: Re: Mormon bashing again
 
(...) Thank you! Too many parents are abdicating their responsibility in this respect, and then complaining when the instrument of government doesn't raise their children as they want them raised. (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Schools (Was: Ten Commmandment discussion with School, etc.) Was: Re: Mormon bashing again
 
(...) I can't speak towards the schools themselves, but I know that for the last 10 years or so, we've had groups like the Christian Coalition, Focus on the Family, etc. sponsoring not-so-stealthy "stealth" school board candidates with, shall we (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Due Process
 
(...) Certainly, but that sticker seemed like Judge, Jury, and Excecutioner all in one shot, and its effects lingered long after it was removed. I understand your analogy about the suspected murderer, in that imprisonment removes a potentially (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand Socialism
 
Steve, (...) Well, maybe what Bill is saying that this county wasn't started out socialistic, but it seems to be getting there. Socialism is a black and white definition, however. Any Political Science / Government class will tell you. Scott S. (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) I think I started to lose interest when their programming day consisted of Yo! MTV Raps interspersed with episodes of Club MTV. Not my type of music, if such it may be called... Dave! (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Trying to understand
 
(...) I think you need to recheck things a bit. The US has a number of Socialist features. 'Socialist' isn't a black-and-white, yes-or-no thing. Steve (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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