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  More from REASON - A Nation of Liars (was Re: Supreme Court Rules Agains State Rights
 
(URL) for you, John: " Those who fret about morality in America, take note: Raich v. Gonzales codifies our status as a Nation of Liars." (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  What Were Those Justices Smoking? (was Re: Supreme Court Rules Agains State Rights
 
(URL) via Reason) COMMENTARY June 7 2005 What Were Those Justices Smoking? - The medical marijuana ruling is legally and morally flawed. By Nick Gillespie, Nick Gillespie is editor in chief of Reason magazine. The most important quote, IMHO: - start (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) Well, not necessarily you per se, but it's one of those things that the Right is generally against. Gay marriage being the big ticket item at the moment. Things like that, restrictions on stem cell research, and even things like gambling & (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) Please, don't remind me. Steve Bliss, feeling a little old (or maybe the recent string of long work days is wearing me down) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) I'm in the "I'm not sure we need to separate mens and womens restrooms" camp also. There is a minor point about the non-privacy of urinals, but then we could either put a urinal in each stall, or we could put the urinals in their own room, or (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) 40 years ago would be 1965. Are you saying the decade of free love, rock 'n' roll, and rampant drug use is more moral than today. In the 1940's, America had invented a weapon that could kill 100,000 people in one blast, while perfecting (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) Well, if you don't like the term, that's fine with me. I object to it because it's not usefully descriptive. However, I have the sense that your beef is with the underlying idea represented by this so-called "hybrid man," rather than with the (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) No point. I was just wondering why the change of heart - so I asked a question, which you haven't answered. What happened to you staying out of OTD? Change your mind? (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) Small edit--there should have been a smiley on that reply, since my early post was replying to (so you proably weren't sitting out!) Dave! (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) As a matter of fact, I do think it's pointless. I briefly addressed (URL) this very point> a while back (admittedly, while you were sort of sitting-out from ot.debate). Dave! (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Much more worrisome than cross dressing!
 
(URL) is the best part: - start - Lisa Graves, the American Civil Liberties Union's senior counsel for legislative strategy, said the lack of a documented case of abuse doesn't mean the law doesn't violate civil liberties. She said the Justice (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) FOUL!!! This has everything to do with this nonsensical, idiotic term! That is what I'm talking about! (...) Perhaps we could discuss a specific example of an industrialized culture? (...) I would take issue with your pejorative "regressive", (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) So I assume you believe that separate bathrooms for men and women is sexist and wrong? JOHN (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) I think that's exactly the ideological goal. I think some believe this to be the ultimate expression of humanity. (...) WHICH "stereotypical roles"??? Fatherhood? Husband? Any individual can do whatever they want, but holding up such a silly (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) Except for the part that I'm of Irish descent. (...) I agree wholeheartedly, which is why I asked in the first place. JOHN (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) I guess what I don't understand is why this is suddenly apparent--or why it's a problem--now, of all times? I don't comprehend the term "hybrid men," so I won't use it here. However, I will point out that the foiling of gender-related (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) In other words, they can be (URL) Separate But Equal.> I see... Dave! (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) Verrrrry Scottish of you, your readers expect better of you. I think things flow better when one is more explicit about what points one is making. (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) Teach them well, and they'll make reasonable choices. They may even follow in your footsteps. Whatever they do, I at least hope you'll respect their choices, even if they choose to put on a pink shirt. Besides, I don't think androgyny is the (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: I think I'm going to puke....
 
(...) Certainly, but I also see it as an important part of western culture, don't you? ROSCO (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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