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(...) Bruce gave a good refutation of this, and in any case the buck doesn't stop with everyone else--it stops with Dubya. If he endorsed the intelligence report, then he, as the highest link in the chain, bears primary responsibility for the (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I think the current situation with regard to a rea/ideal god does exist. I don't bother him and he doesn't bother me. But if I were to answer: He would show himself. He would provide a quid pro quo deal that I can understand. He (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: [snip] Excuse the paraphrase, but did you just say something like, "Life without Allah is worthless." On Septermber 11th? Wow. (20 years ago, 12-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And for a Christian to (URL) mock or criticize non-believers by calling their lives worthless>, I would have to question motives. Get down off your high horse, please John. ROSCO (20 years ago, 12-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:I3tB8E.L00@lugnet.com... (...) So if the motive for criticizing or poking fun at the Bible could *possibly* be traced to intolerance or bigotry then it is immoral? It doesn't seem to me that The Brick (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The operative word being "I". ROSCO (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I know this is a kind of dead topic, but I was watching the AFI Top 100 movie songs and I just had to juxtapose the statement above and the Mel Brooks' satirical song meant to be the ultimate in bad taste: Springtime for Hitler Germany was (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I do not think that is truly representing it accurately. It was Dubya's staff that rather willfully read into the intelligence what they wanted to hear, or possibly exploited what was there by presenting what the higher ups wanted/expected to (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I happen to find the things Man finds worthful completely worthless. Monetary wealth? Success? Fame? Getting laid? Or happiness? Even happiness for its own sake is empty. (...) At the very least, focusing on God turns our narcissistic (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The point is that Dubya did not invent the intelligence and mislead us into war. Everyone was mislead including Dubya. (...) Well the last pro-Kerry Ad I heard on the radio says that John Kerry stands by his descision to vote for military (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I find both major candidates bad choices. I plan to vote for Bandarek unless it is looking really close in Michigan, in which case I will hold my nose and vote for Kerry. (1) But here is a viewpoint from a (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Two very worthy distinctions otherwise lost on many of the most enthusiastic christians. God doesn't seem to do much for athiests. And people who can't find any value in life without the need to resort to a god seem to me to have something of (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ha! Well my version would be: "God gives Christians self-worth. Life without God, if examined theologically, is worthless" ROSCO (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bumped to commemorate the 3rd anniversary. AC Pin (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is this the secular version of "an eye for an eye"? (...) All Christians? (...) Any specific examples in mind? (he asked knowingly) (...) Okay, someone from Vietnam comes to live in the US and continues to fry up cats and dogs for meals. Any (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That is why Jesus summed it up nicely into: "Love God with all of your heart, soul and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself." That's all you really need to know and do. But I think you are being a little disingenuous WRT to worshipping (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Any God who would be so deliberately vague (which is to say deceptive (which is to say evil)) as to prevent easy comprehension of the correct meaning of his One Word on Earth is unworthy of my worship. (...) Do you accept that the examination (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think the OT is just as foreign to a modern Jew who reads Hebrew as it is to a Western American. To really understand it, one must have a knowledge of ancient Judaism and all of its culture and practices. Many of those traditions have been (...) (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is the best Trek-- "That's alright with me, I just bought a boat..." "Still think we're finished?"--"More than ever..." "Note to Galley; Romulan Ale no longer to be served at diplomatic functions" Ahhh, what a flick! Dave K (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Watching (URL) Star Trek VI> again, are we? Dave! (20 years ago, 10-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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