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  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
"Mark P" <mark@landofbricks.com> wrote in message news:I2vxt7.q1p@lugnet.com... (...) I have a real problem with businesses that like to lay down the law without providing a reasonable explanation as to why. A while back I had an issue with my ISP (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (major snip) All of you AFOLs have way too much time on your hands regarding this issue. :-) -jeremy (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops/
 
(...) Yes, his own words: "Dan informed me yesterday that I needed to remove that wording as it's a ToS violation. I responded with a suggestion for a different approach." Later: "...I responded rather tersely, suggesting that the implementation be (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops/
 
(...) Is there even the slightest shred of evidence for this statement? (...) Are you suggesting that he should pretend contrition even though he did nothing wrong? Chris (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's actually the task of the moderators on BrickShelf?
 
"Johannes 'Jojo' Koehler" <chutspe@gmx.net> wrote in message news:I2t532.230G@lugnet.com... (...) I think people do things for different reasons, and rather than judge people based on our own worst fears and worries, we should try to find the truth (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops/
 
(...) down while (...) BL buyer (...) entirely (...) mistakes (...) to protect (...) his TOS (...) it, it (...) enough (...) No. He showed that he thought he could dictate the ToS. I want to be protected from that sort of mind-set. (...) ebay would (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) Larry didn't break any rule spelled out in the TOS. That's the problem. He broke an "unwritten rule" and when he tried to fix the problem, he found that he was still breaking some "unwritten rule". When one enters into such an agreement (like (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) I read the TOS again yesterday and didn't see any of this mentioned. Again, I think it's unfortunate that the TOS doesn't spell out what types of additional rules are allowed and what types aren't. (...) I have a feeling that this wouldn't be (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
Hello! (...) I assume people just don't bother with an affair that is nothing to anybody but Admin and Lar. BrickLink is still the best source for LEGO parts. Solidarity with either Admin or Lar doesn't help anybody at all. First of all not my (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Good NPR Interview
 
The piece is on 3rd party politics and features guests Michael Badnarik (Libertarian presidential candidate) and Larry Jacobs (Hubert Humphrey Institute of Public Policy) (URL) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) I don't understand _your_ point. Is it that people are weak or inconsiderate? Chris (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) I shall need time to think about that. ;) scott A (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.brickshops)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) This is now not possible, as Bricklink has been changed (URL) to allow buyers to add the remainder to their cart, even if it's not a multiple of the bulk amount. That is I believe what prompted Lar to enter the description that caused this (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) Given the vast number of sellers who do just that (especially in terms of S&H/insurance surcharges), without getting into trouble over it, I'm guessing from that that it's okay to say "If you buy X, you must also buy Y", but that it's not okay (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) I understand your point, but this in no way would effect my shopping on bricklink (and I suspect MOST others). Jamie (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) Personally, I see it as resolved now. Almost all of us can all still buy or sell. Follow the rules. It can be debated all we want, but to me, it is resolved. (and I stress - To Me) Jamie Jamie (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
I believe Larry's actions were entirely appropriate, and those of Dan completely inappropriate and unprofessional. Though I am not a high profile Bricklink customer (I've only spent a few hundred there), I will not shop there unless and until his (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: An apology
 
(...) We all know it is always difficult to apologise, even a day, a week or a month or more later.. Hats off to you, Don. I hope those you were apologising to see it, and accept it. (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
This whole situation is so unfortunate on so many levels. Dan seems upset that Larry is trying to use Bricklink in a way that he doesn't intend (even though the TOS doesn't seem to address the gray area of stores imposing "terms and conditions" on (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  An apology
 
(...) Ah perfect. Everyone seems distracted with BrickLinkGate, so.. I think it's long past time for me to take Larry's advice and "play nice". Yes, I admit it. I behaved like a total jerk when I posted to this thread way back in July (and probably (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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