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  Re: I'm Glad Bush is Standing by Rumsfeld
 
(...) I have seen the writing on the wall for Bush ever since he dragged us into an unjustified war. His administration has repeatedly shown signs that they have completely mis-read the situation in Iraq from the beginning, and it was sadly doomed (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Not the one I write my memos in. Or log, or blog, or anything other than texts for outside consumption. (...) If I wanted you to ignore my post, I would have written my reply in Portuguese. My point is that the author *wants* to get your (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Hey, tag team. No fair! (...) Ok, you didn't like those reasons. How about these? (URL) know you'll like these. (URL) is, WMDs is just one of many reasons... (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Um, what language did you just write that in. Should we ignore your post because it's "written in English for outside consumption"? What are you implying? I don't get it. (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Reading Iraqui blogs written in English for outside consumption, you mean? Pedro (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm Glad Bush is Standing by Rumsfeld
 
(...) [snip] (...) I think the part about the sinking ship may be just wishful thinking on the part of the democrats, but time will tell. Anyhow, what I'm wondering is what makes you feel this current administration is any more arrogant than the (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote: I hope Dave K. will forgive me for jumping in. Here are a few points worth noting: (...) Does that mean that we can bomb Iraq and slaughter civilians for all time, until we are satisfied that the 15% (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) I think you're misinterpreting my analogy... Man Bites Dog is an old cliche for the "unexpected news event"... you sort of (at this point) expect Mugabe to burn down white farmers houses and beat up the last remnants of the free press so it's (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Reading those blogs might interfere with a nice pat and already well thought out view of the world, you know. ++Lar (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) They're out there if you want them. I'm sure they've been discussed to death here before, but I don't have time right now to track that down. So once again it's google to the rescue. Here's a short list from one of the sites. Reasons for going (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) If you wish to keep on insulting the messenger, all the power to ya. I'm just trying to get a coherent idea of where you're coming from. Stated--the Iraqis have blogs now, they didn't have blogs before the occupation. What'd I miss? So I'm not (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) You really should check them out. But I admit it's difficult. There are so, so many of them. (...) Wow, you really have a twisty mind. Of course the war cannot be justified simply because they have the internet now. Where do you come up with (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) I'll have to peruse the blogs more thoroughly when I'm not at work (LUGNET at the office, can only give scant attention elsewhere through the day and keep my job...) But by what I'm reading, the (internet cafe) ends justify the (inept, (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Actually, that was one of my less lame attempts to change the subject--just ask anyone. Anyway, from my perspective, I see an Iraqi citizen whose nation was invaded, who is 90% likely to have been incarcerated for no good reason, and who was (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) A lame attempt to change the subject. But if you must go there, at least his head is still attached to his body. Perspective. (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Did you read any of those blogs? They talk constantly about the electricity situation. You can get even more answers with google. Try searching for "internet cafe iraq blog". Here's the top link. (URL) begins like this: " BAGHDAD — A year ago, (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Well, that guy wearing the hood and standing on the box with wires attached to his genitals probably had more than enough electricity. See? The Dubya/Cheney/Rumsfeld reconstruction agency is improving conditions all the time! Dave! (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) How many Iraqis have access to the web? Heck, how many Iraqi's have 24-hour electricity? Scott A (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) What about: Man feeds dog Man starves dog Man wants dog's bone Man beats dog Dog bites man (...) That is correct; we are setting the standard. Remember (URL) this>: "Mr Rumsfeld said the Geneva convention "indicates that it's not permitted to (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Arrogance floats amongst the stars...
 
(...) Why wonder? Read up. if you're going to speak out for them, then you owe them the courtesy of reading their own words first. (5 URLs) sure to check out the rest of links on the right to see what others there have to say. And heck, while you're (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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