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(...) You'll have to quote me some source for that sequence of events - it sounds like the Official Saddam Version. And yes, even if that's the real undisputed sequence (which I'll bluntly say that I doubt), he'd still do it in a heartbeat. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I doubt it. After we back-stabbed him like that? He came to us and asked permission to invade Kuwait. We told him officially, and on the record, that we had no opinion on his minor border dispute. As soon as he committed we mobilized and (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As I said, splitting hairs. The indication was that Saddam had WoMD and was going to either use them himself or hand them out like candy to Islamic extremists (who would only to be happy to use them on Saddam, given half a chance). (...) He (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It probably would, but that's not what draws my attention in your post: Exactly why can't a nation with oil resources seek nuclear capabilities? (...) Then why did your country require inspections in the first place? That is, if they were so (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I disagree in this sense: I believe what Bush meant was that, given time, the inevitable proliferation of WMDs to terrorists by SH was bound to occur, just not "imminently". If SH already had the weapons, then an attack could have happened at (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's splitting hairs: "Grave and gathering" "Urgent". Bush is doing the Texas Two-Step. But on the other count, yes, Bush indicated that Saddam was to be removed from power - specifically because of the WoMD. Can't find any WoMD so now it's (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't have time to research it, but you are dead wrong on both counts. He called for Saddam to step down, and never used the term imminent threat. (...) Please, at this point nobody knows the "truth". For all we know, the WMDs could have (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Believe what you want. Time will certainly tell. (...) Well, some did. How can you be certain that you would have been right? (...) Facts? What "facts"? The facts are that he had them in the past, he had the willingness to use them, and he was (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'd say the 'capable of attacking within 45 minutes' was imminent enough. (...) Show me before the war where he said that? You know Dubya, et al. mentioned the imminent threat of Iraq many times over, but I don't recall anyone saying that the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's not quite the whole story. He wanted SH removed and replaced with a pro-US stooge. The people of Iraq are going against the plot... they are asking for democracy! (...) Because of the agenda set by Washinton & London. Even I thought he (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) I suppose they can...> ROSCO (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Neither. But the results are the same aren't they? JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Would you prefer your child to be wrongly executed by a court or murdered by some psycho? Chris (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You need to understand what "Democracy" means. (...) It is not only "Islamic extremists" who oppose what Israel is doing. (...) Yep, it's a (URL) f> (URL) a> (URL) c> (URL) t>. (...) You are in denial. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is hard for me to see how prison could be zero cost. Criminals tend to on the dim side and have low earning potential. How could one motivate them to work without rewarding them with (say) cable TV? In the UK, the cost of keeping a man (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) money, (...) their (...) work? (...) Hmm, I might still let them have slop... I would offer a variety of incentives. I don't see a problem with prisoners who are on their way to rehabilitation having access to TV and such. In fact, if they are (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"lester Witter" <witter@erim-int.com> wrote in message news:HstoCt.1xzx@lugnet.com... (...) story (...) that if (...) would (...) man was (...) This is definitely a concern. I think I would be concerned even if it was done in such a way as to not be (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) releases a (...) the (...) You're speaking as if the only alternative to the death penalty is letting people free. If you can show me with reasonable certainty that a given person is a danger to society, then I am willing to put them in prison (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Didn't say that. In fact I do think there is culpability, if it can be shown that the state did not do its job in prosecuting the case. I can see the basis for a civil suit by the second victims against the cops that failed to properly (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So you think that the state isn't in any way culpable for the murder of an innocent by a murderer who has been set free? (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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