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(...) money, (...) their (...) work? (...) Hmm, I might still let them have slop... I would offer a variety of incentives. I don't see a problem with prisoners who are on their way to rehabilitation having access to TV and such. In fact, if they are (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"lester Witter" <witter@erim-int.com> wrote in message news:HstoCt.1xzx@lugnet.com... (...) story (...) that if (...) would (...) man was (...) This is definitely a concern. I think I would be concerned even if it was done in such a way as to not be (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) releases a (...) the (...) You're speaking as if the only alternative to the death penalty is letting people free. If you can show me with reasonable certainty that a given person is a danger to society, then I am willing to put them in prison (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Didn't say that. In fact I do think there is culpability, if it can be shown that the state did not do its job in prosecuting the case. I can see the basis for a civil suit by the second victims against the cops that failed to properly (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So you think that the state isn't in any way culpable for the murder of an innocent by a murderer who has been set free? (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You want the state to do it, that's the difference. (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I fixed it, there is something there now if you click that ersatz link. :-) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lester Witter wrote: <snip> (...) It was also used in "Lexx" the miniseries... THough in that series, iirc, almost any offence got you put up on the slab to be parsed (even being late for work!), and, again iirc, much (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Several, actually... you and I were posting at about the same time and I gave some suggestions for finding them. (...) There IS that tiny downside, yes. Hence another reason to oppose the death penalty. (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My whole point is so what? An innocent get killed. Your idea releases a killer and he kills again. Both result in an innocent killed. What's the difference? (...) What were you saying about torture? On second thought; maybe we have a win-win (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, keep those puns in specified areas! (good one:-) JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The idea of using desth row prisoners as "parts" was explored in a SciFi story by Larry Niven (can't remeber the name). The hypothesis of his story was that if the condemed were used for parts, then over time, more and more crimes would become (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not my original idea. Try googling using Niven and Corpsicle as search terms... also try Gil Hamilton, ARM and Patchwork Girl. Note that it's not Niven's original idea either, I don't think. (at least the frozen corpse part of it anyway) (...) (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're right, it's not. A 3 time drug "abuser" hasn't necessarily committed any actual crime at all, so shouldn't be in jail for his/her "crime". I'm glad to see you've decided to come to the side of the angels and oppose the war on drugs, at (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Wow, this is an interesting idea. Maybe this is what was meant by "an eye for an eye..." Part out the death row inmates to save other lives. Something King Solomon would appreciate, I'm sure. - Chris. (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? I would have thought all you Cons (of one ilk or another) stuck together anyway. ;-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) HA, don't let the Libs hear you say that;-) (...) But herein lies the rub. Does the punishment fit the crime? A 3 time drug abuser can get about the same length sentence (depending upon the ages of the criminals-- hey, life is only so long). (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I see no reason for cable TV or conjugal visits. Life in prison sounds about right though. (I beleive you asked this already) Note, again, my assertion that prisons need to be structured so that they do not cost the state money, but rather, (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A civil war. JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) By merit of being a Democracy alone Israel deserves our support. While I agree that in an ideal world we wouldn't have to support Israel monetarily as we currently do, to actually withdraw support would be a very bad signal to send to Islamic (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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