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  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Why is it the job of the US to bring justice to the world? (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) So I'm asking with all seriousness and no veil of ulterior motive--what do we do? Justice must prevail, if we are to hold to our own ideals. How do we achieve justice in this situation? Dave K (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The future of child care
 
(...) But isn't that the direction of society in general right now--any bit of sniffle, any bit of pain, any slight cough, and "dammit, I want my medicine!" Any sort of uncomfortableness and we want a "quick fix"--"why should I suffer the least (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Standard of living in Iraq is now 50% below what it was pre Saddam. Could it get worse if we "lost the peace"? Sure. Do I trust Bush to do a good job? No. What if the UN and the IMF/World Bank are involved? Even worse. So, no win situation. (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Let's attack this point by point. 1. If you're going to accuse Saddam of murders he has not yet committed, then you absolutely must provide evidence that he will do so. Since you're proposing some sort of comparision between the relative (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Yeah! Nuke 'em 'til the glow, then shoot 'em in the dark, and let God sort 'em out!! Rah Rah!! Go Team! Dave K (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) What does diplomacy accomplish? I mean *really*? Please cite examples of diplomacy working *anywhere* in the world, but not, of course, "diplomacy" conducted in surrender agreements. The fact is that "diplomacy" is merely a synonym for (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The future of child care
 
(URL) thing you know, doctors will be over-prescribing drugs for kids who have trouble sitting through a boring school day. Nah, that'll never happen... By the way, I am not equating the prudent prescription of medication for those who suffer from (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) I think it amy be in reference to a few things--the idiot in charge was replaced with, what was it, 4 other idiots? The 'Cartels', as it were? Are the Afgan folks any better off? They died during the 'military action' and now they have (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Can you elaborate on that? Although we haven't won the peace yet, that war was won pretty decisively, contrary to what the naysayers predicted. (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) <snip> (...) k, 2 things we agree on Dave K (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli writes: <snip for later... so many things for later... there isn;t enuf time in the day!> (...) On this we totally agree! This is another thing I get into with my SO--she went to that quiet little rally in (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Does Bush want diplomacy to work? Scott A (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) Shrub. Hmm. To you have "thickets" in the US? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) I could have guessed this. That's just SO wrong! The campaign slogan of Shrub's post-Iraq opponent for the presidency: "One more such victory and we are lost." When you figure out who said it and why it was said a divine light will descend (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) And what was Afghanistan? Will invading Iraq be any more decisive? ROSCO (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) You are spot on, Mike! Terrorists fear strength and feed on weakness, not the other way around. God, why is this concept so friggin' hard to understand?? People say "if we attack Iraq, we will be bringing more terrorist attacks upon (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) imperialism. (...) And that right there is everything that is wrong with US foreign policy. We can easily do the right thing (not just in Iraq but everywhere) and don't. No one, not even the politicians who want the war, (and by coincidence (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
Yeah, that war in Iraq is going to be about as useful as the "War on Drugs"... (URL) guess it's not the case that Shrub Jr. is just attempting the big oil grab for himself and his buddies and making Joe and Jane Sixpack foot the bill of the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm just going to take a back seat.... Re: You Can Lead A Horse To Water....
 
(...) What the heck are you talking about? Unlike World War 2 we (any "Western" country) do not carpet bomb cities anymore. The big Tomahawk cruise missles are accurate to within half a meter, let alone the smaller missles. Civilian casualties would (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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