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(...) "Eh... All right. Two points, ah, two flats, and a packet of gravel." ;-) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd "venture" 99% of the terrorism the UK has suffered has been perpetrated people who'd call themselves "Christians". However, Christianity is not what drives them. – it’s greed, nationalism and to a lesser extent some form of political (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Let he who is free from sin cast the first stone." Fredrik (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who is "they"? The decision outlined above was taken by *Belgium's* "Supreme Court". As their name implies the "Norwegian Nobel Committee" is actually based in *NORWAY*. The prize was actually shared by Rabin, Arafat and Peres. Their work was (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) .... and now it appears not even the USA is 100% welcome: Turkey ups stakes on US troops (URL) Turkish president has said his country will allow US soldiers to be deployed on its territory only if the United Nations passes a second resolution (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | "US buys up Iraqi oil to stave off crisis" [was Re: What about the first?]
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(...) Really? Read this: US buys up Iraqi oil to stave off crisis (URL) its most chronic shortage in oil stocks for 27 years, the US has this month turned to an unlikely source of help - Iraq. Weeks before a prospective invasion of Iraq, the (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One can point to individuals in both parties in letting Enron go wild, but it really was the baby of the Republicans. Bush loved 'em. As to the oft-repeated but inaccurate claims that the environmentalists had somehow blocked construction of (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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[snip] (...) Now that is really interesting. Then again they gave Arafat a Nobel peace prize too. [snip] (...) no (...) All of that falsely assumes Saddam would not destroy the oil infrastructure as a parting gift. (...) war. (...) Freeing the Iraqi (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are correct, you did not say that at any time. I also did not say you did say it... :-) I just call your attention to the fact that it would be wrong *if* you had that in mind. Therefere I chose the words "as you said it" to be highlighted (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wrong in the sense that I never said that U.S. companies do not benefit from Middle Eastern oil in any way. Dave is saying we want their oil because we are sucking up so much Middle Eastern oil (and specifically Iraqi oil) with our SUVs. My (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(sorry about the double-post... my bad) :-$ Pedro (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Even though I can easily agree with you on that (oil for US consumption which is not from the GoM or Alaska comes primarily either from Venezuela or West African countries), I think I must point out one does not need to *use* the oil to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Even though I can easily agree with you on that (oil for US consumption which is not from the GoM or Alaska comes primarily either from Venezuela or West African countries), I think I must point out one does not need to *use* the oil to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "I take it then, that Canadians aren't buying SUVs?" If you are going to castigate Americans for something that Canadians are doing (wasting oil through self-indulgence), you aren't going to garner a lot of respect for whatever point you are (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Arrgg. This kind of moral equivalency is probably the most aggravating characteristic of the Left. To be unable to distinguish between being morally good and evil is *basic*! Dave, you sound silly when you call Bush or Blair "bad", but call (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Again, I think it did--take a fine example of Cuba--name one spot where Canadians can go on vacations that Americans, by law, cannot? Guess which cigar Canadians can smoke that Americans, by law, cannot. Now I'll connect the dots-- We try to (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good for them, but that doesn't answer my question. :-) (...) But this was not the point you were making. How can you castigate the United States for its policy in regards to Iraq on the basis of the US trying to portray everyone as a bad man? (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Every single foreign power that has taken over the Middle Eastern countries has left without glory... ever since the Assyrians at least, ending in the British so far. So no, I don't think the US should do that. What would anyone gain? The (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Historical circumstance. In the past others undertook the majority of what can now be called terrorist actions; in the future, others (non-muslim, that is) will; it's a never ending and unavoidable cycle. More: it is not dependent on religions (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The problem is what he will do in the mean time. If he just kept to himself the problem would be moot. JOHN (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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