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(...) Are you crazy? Anything which does not support the war is "irrelevant" [see France, Nato, the UN, public opinion, etc]. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the "Hawks" are interested in rational thought! Scott A (22 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya. I for one would LOVE to see some real investigative reporting into the theory that France is blocking things because they have lots and lots of business deals in the hopper that would go forward if sanctions are eventually lifted but which (...) (22 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) War? Troops sent in to fight? Was Clinton building up the forces, daring Saddam to 'slip up even just a little bit'? (...) I would if I could, but there's a tinpot dictator in charge of that country that, so the rumours go, is more of a (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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After Turkey's invocation of NATO's article 4, one other article cries loudly that there can be no NATO support of US intervention in Iraq: (URL) 1 The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But then again, they can argue they were "balancing things up" after giving the Israelis the Bomb. Because they did that... just to spite the US! What the French were not expecting was Eisenhower's (?) change of ideas on the matter (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When they vote against my interests, I'm happy to have them stay home if they like. I'd even arrange to have non-stop wrestle-mania to encourage them. :-) (...) They don't want lazy democrats worked up, black or otherwise. It'll give (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't even understand the question. Wasn't Clinton the best Republican president we ever had? The "Left" is not democrat. If you're going to go off into idiot-land, at least ask the intelligent questions. Bush is not capable of clever (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We bombed Bagdad with 500 cruise missles-- call it what you will. (...) We bombed Bagdad with 500 cruise missles-- would you call that "peaceful"? (...) Hmmm, We bombed Bagdad with 500 cruise missles.... (...) If you are referring to the (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, I may be a self-serving hypocrite, but I'm no partisan! You ask a great question, which I've heard in a few other venues, and which bears a good examination. I'll offer what insights I can. 1. Immediacy: Milosovic was at the time of the (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) Hmmm, let me search my faulty recollection--was there a war against Iraq in '98? Hmmm... not so much. Did the Democrats get some sort of peaceful worked out solution to the problem? Was (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. As I speak to you America's men and women in uniform, and our British allies, are fighting for security, peace and freedom in the Persian Gulf. They're doing an outstanding job, showing bravery and skill, making our (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Noticed this news item: (URL) ? Dubya and Saddam have something in common too. Might they have been triplets? Duq "David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:HA7CCq.J8D@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) of (...) the (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Greg Palast on Blair: (URL) poodle on a leash?! -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Complicated answer: At first, France's stubborness in getting heavy reparations was crucial to have them made *at all*; the Brits would have settled for the dismantling of the German and Austro-hungarian Empires, the Russians had their own (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: <snip> (...) Here's my inherent cotradictory nature--I love the B52! I had a model kit of one when I was a kid--it's a wonderful jet. Though, to be said, one of my fav. documentaries (barring the one (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Politicians are in the business of getting their party elected (at a high level at least). I really don't think that it has to do with "racist bigots", but more with the fact that traditionally, blacks vote against GOP (I know, very bad gross (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe one of our friends from across the pond can help out here, but there's apparently a satirical stage play now running in the UK that's almost as farcical as the real-world farce playing out under Bush. I think it even has direct and (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You know, I never understood the Confederate flag's ability to still fly in any official capacity. I mean, race-issue aside, isn't it the symbol of a treason nation? A rebellion that was put down? Why wasn't it outlawed at the end of the Civil War? (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, love the planes across the border--thanks! (...) Getting a bombed out, poor, defeated country to make reparations possibly wans't the best of ideas, but wasn't it more than just France that was liking this idea? (...) I just wish that he (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Free country my heinie! (URL) and national Republicans had worried that a flag referendum the same day as the presidential election could spark a huge turnout by blacks and moderate whites and potentially affect the fortunes of GOP candidates, (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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