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  Here's somthing you don't see everyday...
 
American Incompotent Justice System (URL) K. (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The US gives too much/not enough aid
 
(...) Have you been watching war movies again? ;) This is what Ambrose had to say about the D-Day campaign [a/the key WW2 campaign]: ==+== That a cross-Channel attack against the Atlantic Wall could even be contemplated was a tribute to what Dwight (...) (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  UK perspective on US elections
 
UK Perspective on US elections Both from yesterday's Guardian: The rescue parties (URL) with a choice between two ugly parties, the electorate, quite rationally, stayed at home. In the US, as in Britain, young voters have all but abandoned party (...) (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Israelis fear war crimes arrests in the UK!
 
I really do love living in the UK Israelis fear war crimes arrests (URL) Israeli government has ordered an urgent assessment of whether its politicians and soldiers could face arrest and trial for war crimes while travelling abroad. The move (...) (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The US gives too much/not enough aid
 
(...) Yes. (...) I expect the cost would have been high, but worth paying. (...) Others have already. But if it matters to you, feel free to disprove it. (...) I think it is every bit as relevant as WW1. The USA continues to make bad decisions – (...) (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The US gives too much/not enough aid
 
(...) I'm not "anti-American", I'm pro-justice. Understand the difference. Scott A (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Buses & Beggers [Re: Vote against/for...]
 
(...) Not at all. Blacks *did* have serious civil rights issues. Most of the country has been able to get beyond simple racism. Today many blacks face many social and economic problems (as does everyone else!)-- but to continually blame racism is (...) (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Buses & Beggers [Re: Vote against/for...]
 
(...) Why not? Why are millions well (...) You choose to dodge my question, so I'll ignore yours for the moment. Are you claiming that blacks haven't been put into a difficult position in the first place due to factors mentioned above? You may ask (...) (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Buses & Beggers [Re: Vote against/for...]
 
(...) *Are* all blacks in the "less money" hole? Why not? Why are millions well off, dispite all of the things you mentioned? I am not trying to sweep all of those things under the rug; I am calling for people who use such arguments as excuses to (...) (22 years ago, 13-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Buses & Beggers [Re: Vote against/for...]
 
(...) How did blacks get into the "less money" hole? Are you honestly trying to sweep slavery, racism, Jim Crow laws, blocking of access to education, discrimination in the workplace under the rug? If you pretend that this didn't happen, then you (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) nothing (...) "neither", (...) here. Thanks for not going there again. (...) Where did I mention muslims? ROSCO (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Islam is not "Believe or die", nor it ever was. Neither was Christianity. Yet, both religions were used as pretexts by loonies - that is inevitable! (...) I have a hard time believing Allah wrote the Khoran. Somehow I tend to follow a more (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The US gives too much/not enough aid
 
(...) I'd argue the "true but irrelavant" charge. Ignore Europe, stomp Japan with all our resources (is anyone contesting we couldn't do it?) then deal with Germany. Japan only took so long because they were on the constant back-burner. It's a silly (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) I know that. I was referring to the use of the two bombs as part of a larger conflict - they were not a terrorist act themselves, IMHO. (...) It is not terrorism, but it is close. The name for it is "total war", a concept that was born in the (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The US gives too much/not enough aid
 
(...) What about US corporations preventing their laborors in the third world from unionizing? I'm sure they have had a hand in local politics as well. Didn't anyone see Zoolander (half joking). (...) Pittsburgh has largely cleaned itself up. Most (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Buses & Beggers [Re: Vote against/for...]
 
(...) Okay, but so what? Statistically, one group will *have* to make more than the other group-- what is the point? The point is that there are haves and havenots-- why introduce race into the equation? How does that ultimately matter? And what (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  RE: Vote for/against
 
(...) Are you out of your mind again? Christianity and Christians are TO THIS DAY actively engaged in the banning and suppression of materials they find offensive or contradictory to the orthodoxy. Witness the disgusting efforts of Michael Behe & (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The US gives too much/not enough aid
 
(...) Not to get off-topic (well, this is the off-topic forum), but I am curious, what would the people making 10 cents a day make as income if U.S.ians didn't buy Nike shoes? Would they make nothing a day? Are there jobs in their countries that pay (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The US gives too much/not enough aid
 
(...) This statement should no have to be proved to such a keen observer of the world but since you asked. 1) I was reading about the island of Borneo the other day and the exploitation of the their rainforests to provide cheap lumber to Japan (a (...) (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The US gives too much/not enough aid
 
(...) Hi Dave, I agree with you that these affect the global environment, but you do they show exploitation of the developing world? -chris (22 years ago, 12-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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