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(...) I'm not defending my post as a refutation of your claim, but I'm curious about this. How is long term limit a flaw? I was thinking of it as an asset because it supplies a venue in which long periods of public service are reasonably possible. (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know what you mean. I didn't figure anyone would actually do the Senate thingy, I was just fooling around at work. :-) (...) I actually don't think that I refuted it...just provided some data. But I agree that his 5:1 is likely too high. On (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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And how is the below any different than completing a third term? In either case, the INTENT was to work a third term, whether it was completed or not. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My assertion was among career politicians (all politicians), the ones over 20 years of service would be 5:1 Democrat. I just pulled that ratio out of the air. His sample really had nothing to do with my hypothesis. -John (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe there was a typo in the original sentence: "les jeux son faits" should translate to "the game is set" or "the bets are made". Frequent in Casinos, IIRC, when the roulette is spinned. Pedro (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not that it matters-- I was just tweaking you:-) The point was the humor of Rooney quoting French as he's about to (as far as he knows) bust Ferris. BTW, he himself translates for us: "The game is up". -John (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think he refuted your 5:1 quite well within the short time constraints he had. He certainly did a good job as far as *I* was concerned in showing there was nowhere near a 5:1 ratio. I'm sure he could do the same for HoR, but if you think he did (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Refuted it? Hardly. First off, choosing the senate as a basis for investigation is flawed from the start because their terms are so long. Second, he calls a senator who has merely won his third term (but not served 1 day of the third term) a (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I ran it through Babelfish, but it didn't make much sense - "plays its fact". A basic search did not bring up a good translation within 30sec or so, so yes, I got lazy (see my other thread about people making it too easy on the rest of us). It was (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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More often than not, I find myself not replying to many points in a discussion, because I just KNOW that by the time I start doing any decent research, one of you will have completed their research and posted the results by then (e.g., Chris' (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Personally, I tired after looking up "mote";-) Did you search my French line, or were *you* too lazy? :-) -John (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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BTW, for those that were too stubborn/ignorant/lazy to look it up, typing "pathemata mathemata" into the Location bar of Communicator gave the following match in less than 1 second: (URL) of: pathemata mathemata (Greek) pathemata mathemata (Greek): (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) That's it! I voiced the same opinion as both Scott and John in under 2 days!!! Now I just have to say something that goes with what Dave! says and I will cease to exist!! Dave (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Precisely. And all said, we will never know. The theories of Evolution and "Creationism" (I'd call it a belief, not a theory, but whatever) are 2 sides of the same coin. *Neither* are proveable, and the debate is similar to the "existence of (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are wrong, and I will correct you. According to scientists (including non-Creationist), the definitions are these: Microevolution: The theory that natural selection, over time, take an organism and transform it into a more specialized (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Evolution makes many claims that can be tested. One deals with the order in which fossil records are deposited in strata, and in this respect is has proven correct again and again. Another is in the types of transitional fossils that will (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes: <snip> Most of the time in these debates, I feel like the 5 year old trying to understand his older brother and his buddies talking about the stuff they learned in grade 8--sometimes is (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes: <snip> (...) Pure Creationists believes that the Earth really was created in exactly 6 days, and ignore any scientific eveidence to the contrary. S.C.s (at least me, tell me if i'm wrong (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The same could be said about evolution. You can't prove macroeveolution in a lab, it makes no claims that can be tested, it uses no evidence that cannot be used for the S.C. theory (the type I believe in anyway). (...) This is totally (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, I agree. But were I a Christian, I would still see the overwhelming evidence, believe in evolution as the most likely explanation of the origin of species, and search for a way to justify my religious belief with my scientific observation. (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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