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Yup, all the electric clocks in my house were blinking when I got home. At least where I work has been declared a "critical installation" and isn't subject to blackouts - allegedly, since I'm at a slightly offsite facility and we are all wondering (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Clearly your second amendment rights are being violated. As long as that sub is "man portable" that is. So start building! ++Lar (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Less government power, less possible avenues of corruption. Yes, private interests also can be corrupt, but as long as there are no barriers to entry, corrupt (and therefore inefficent) companies get displaced by honest ones. ++Lar (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Congratulations. Try being without power for 3 days in the middle of a blizzard in January. :-/ Do they give you any advance notice of specific outages (like: we're dropping power to your house from 6:00pm to 8:00pm)? Steve (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What? Can you imagine the screams of protest as the citizens of California had to pay the *actual* costs for both their energy and short-sitedness? No politician could endure the horror of enraged voters! Steve (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you crazy? The 2nd Amendment guarantees that you can have one! What's wrong with you?! 8^) (...) "Let me control the power supply, and I don't care who makes the laws." Dave! (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh sure, I'll just go right out and hook up my nuclear sub. Oh wait, I don't own one. Guess I'll just keep bending over for the power company. ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why don't you do what the Soviets did in Murmansk? To run the power grid, they hooked up the nuclear submarines to the grid to keep the power stable and affordable. best Lindsay (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True. The problem is that you can't buy power that there's no generating capacity for. The issue is more that California's power infrastructure sucks, as you point out: (...) I had always been under the impression that California had been (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Most people I know (who express an opinion on the matter) are aware of the corruption and are equally aware that there's little the average citizen can do about it. <insert third-gov't-party ad here> As long as humans are subject to greed, and (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... (...) ... (...) So I've been wondering for a couple months why the state doesn't lift the dumb socialist power price caps and allow the market to do its thing. Why don't you folks just let the problem fix itself? And really, what do you (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's precisely my point, except as regards the U.S. government. Believe it or not, Americans are naive enough to think themselves immune to the kind of corruption and nonsense that takes place elsewhere, frankly, ALL OVER THE WORLD! I think (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow!.. Blackouts in US? C'mon guys, it's not that big a problem..:-) We were very get used to it just 10-15 years ago. I mean *regular* and *planned* blackouts, 2 hours everyday..:-) Things were much better during the last ten years but our (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppose these things are all realtive ;-) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heh...:-) I think you don't know much about what could be the cost of a corrupt government to you, perhaps you never have to live with one, generations long. Selçuk (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One of the places it's being bought from is Washington State. As a result. my power bill is almost double what it was at this time last year. :^P Meanwhile, the local power companies are asking us to conserve (so they can sell our power to CA) (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I bet you thought you lived in a country where the presidential election couldn't be stolen by a man in bed with the oil and energy companies too! Interestingly the price of natural gas, petroleum, and electricity are all going through the (...) (23 years ago, 9-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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For the second time I have now been victim of California's rolling blackouts. The first experience was a few months ago at home, and now today 5/8/01 here at work. For those of you not experiencing this wonderful phenomenon, it really sucks! This is (...) (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ack! Purged from the memory banks. What else have I forgotten? LFB (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And let's not forget Krull. Oh wait. On second thought, let's! Dave! (23 years ago, 8-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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