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(...) And yet it's not really an answer, is it? (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I guess you answered your own question. ROSCO (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Do you have a cite for that? ROSCO (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "This is precisely the mindset and rationale the terrorists would like their enemies to have. " Seems pretty unequivocal to me. (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, I'll type slowly so you can follow along. (...) It shows that the enemy is afraid to engage the US military. The cowards decide to fight a war of propaganda targeting innocents instead. And really, do they think that the Iraqis will (...) (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not one death is "acceptable" (YOUR word, not mine). (...) Yes. What I mean is: if 10 innocents are killed today, and 12 tomorrow, then that doesn't mean we are suddenly "losing". And if there are only 2 the following day, we are not suddenly (...) (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Averages are seldom a good measure of populations. Mind you, as the declining population approaches 1, they get a lot better. Cheers Richie Dulin (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm, I have to admit I'm a little confused here. The death of innocents shows the US is winning, but actually keeping count of those deaths is what those terrorists want. Could you clarify something for me: is the death of innocents a good or (...) (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So you'd consider ANY body count "acceptable" in order to "win" this military action? And do you think the average Iraqi would have the same answer to that question as you do? ROSCO (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) We are winning because we are taking control of areas that once weren't under control. Little by little the terrorists are being squeezed out. Winning or losing isn't based on the daily body count. This is precisely the mindset and rationale (...) (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So the more the US wins, the more innocents die? Cheers Richie Dulin (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ahh, thanks for dusting off and bringing the Q word into the discussion! If you think that any of the homicide bombers over the years would have reconsidered their actions because there had been broad support for the invasion of Iraq, you are (...) (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The difference is that Cheney's prediction in 1994 was *exactly* correct. Current events clearly show that invading Iraq without broad support from our allies resulted in a quagmire. Are you saying that in 2003 Cheney was so certain of his (...) (18 years ago, 17-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Yes, but what in the WORLD changed Cheney's mind? To date, there really hasn't been any evidence whatsoever that has surfaced that would explain his about-face on the issue. (and before you tell me "we don't know all the facts", (...) (18 years ago, 16-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bob, In the past, we've used an EMD GP30, EMD SW1, ALCO C420, and an ALCO RS1. The GP30 is ex-L&N/Seaboard System, while the C420 is ex-Lehigh Valley. Not sure about the RS1, though I believe it was purchased by the government for use at the (...) (18 years ago, 16-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) This sounds like a fun day for Train enthusiasts for sure! I was just curious what engine(s) would be used during the event? What railroad liveries will be seen - any fallen flags or only those currently in business? (URL) (18 years ago, 16-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) "Found nothing wrong? Well, I'm sure its not because of a lack of looking" (18 years ago, 16-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) Ya got the whole bit up there, Peter??? :-) JOHN (18 years ago, 16-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) "Thank you, Doc. You ever serve time?" (18 years ago, 16-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) I confess that in 1901 I said to my brother Orville that man would not fly for fifty years. Two years later we ourselves made flights. This demonstration of my impotence as a prophet gave me such a shock that ever since I have distrusted (...) (18 years ago, 16-Aug-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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