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Re: why eBay proxy bidding is broken
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Date: 
Sat, 16 Oct 1999 06:11:54 GMT
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Naji Norder (n.norder@computer.org) wrote:

different answers to several questions.  What do you (AFOLs) think:

1. Should a new bidder have to beat an existing proxy by the bid increment?

Yes.  I haven't seen any disagreement on this one, except from e-bay. :/

2. Can a bidder retract/lower his/her proxy bid (given that FIRM bids
cannot be retracted)?

No.  Philosophically, AFAIC, a bid is a bid - proxy or not - and shouldn't
be retractable.  There is also at least one practical problem with proxy
retraction: timing.  What if someone submits a retraction but in the meantime
the proxy system has pushed their bid up (or above their new "minimum").
The auctioneer would presumably include a disclaimer saying that this might
happen and that the bidder will have to accept it, but then you're leaning
back toward not allowing retractions.

3. Can a bidder raise his/her proxy bid -without- rebidding on the lot?

I'd lean toward yes on this as a desirable feature, although with multiple
instances of the same lot you then run into the problem of differentiating
between a bid on a (potentially) additional instance vs. just raising the
proxy bid of a instance (and which instance?) you already have the high bid
on.  This is a step away from the idea that you are bidding on n out of m
lots without differentiating among those lots.

4. In mulitple identical lots, should one person's proxies fight each other?

Yes.  Again, proxy bidding is just an extension of regular bidding.

Steve
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  Re: why eBay proxy bidding is broken
 
(...) I tend to say no. Part of a proxy is the notion of what TIME it was given. If I am at 30, have a proxy for 50 which I then raise to 70, it seems to me that the 50-70 part should not be stamped as having the same TIME as the earlier 30-50 part. (...) (25 years ago, 16-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.theory)

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  Re: why eBay proxy bidding is broken
 
From a seller's standpoint, a proxy bid is not as powerful as a "FIRM" bid. A proxy is better than a minimum bid (with no proxy) though. High Firm Bid -------- | | (proxies in here somewhere) | | -------- Minimum Bid The question is, where should a (...) (25 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.theory)

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