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  Solicitation, but not spam (was Re: Spam by proxy ?
 
(...) I read it, thanks. Don't assume I didn't, thanks. Didn't say you called it illegal, merely pointed out that it isn't illegal, for the benefit of those that might think that it is. (...) I agree with your feelings in general, but I just want to (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  What is spam?
 
[I'm going off on a bit of a tangent here...] (...) I wonder, though -- couldn't such a message theoretically _contain_ "spam" even if the message as a whole isn't considered "spam"? For example, when I see something at the bottom of an email (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: What is spam?
 
I'm going to stick by the definition as it's commonly accepted. Spam is unsolicited bulk email. Bulk in that it wasn't written by a human and isn't personal to you. Unsolicited in that you didn't ask for it. A mailing list or distro list that you're (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: What is spam?
 
(...) I would say an advertisement appended to every message sent by a list or whatever would be SPAM. To some extent, the little "here's our web page, and this is how you unsubscribe" which is appended to every message on the lists that I manage is (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: What is spam?
 
(...) And I wouldn't. Be careful of meme dilution. That advert is a "message from our sponsor" during a program you chose to watch. It's not spam. Mail the sponsor sends you because you didn't check the "I don't want mail" box (or because the ToS (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: What is spam?
 
(...) Hmm. Hmm. Not according to the Jargon File[1]. :) (What definitive reference are you using?) I think it's safe to say it is _an_ accepted definition, though! :) --Todd [1] (URL) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: What is spam?
 
(...) <nitpick> 'written by a human' notes can be spam. If I get my dirty little hands on an address list, and handwrite a (whatever), then send it to all gazillion of them, it can still qualify as spam. Most of the chain e-mails out there were, at (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: What is spam?
 
(...) I think it actually _started_ with newsgroups, and has since grown to include mailing lists and other areas. (...) Ah yes, that's a great example! One single message, not necessarily having been bulk e-mailed (but in the recent (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: What is spam?
 
Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) include (...) Yup, that's my memory also. I know lists existed when I started reading newsgroups, but there weren't very many (of course at that time, you could actually read the whole list of newsgroups also, (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: What is spam?
 
(...) That one, but I was working from memory. (...) OK. I yield. It is AN accepted definition, not THE accepted definition. Most of the things we think of as spam are covered by senses 3,4 and 5 of their def. That includes mail you didn't ask for, (...) (24 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)

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