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Re: Request For Comments: Proposal to set up a club for UK Fans of LEGO
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lugnet.loc.uk
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Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:15:21 GMT
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I've attended a couple of fests, SCLF & TVLF2001, went to the RLD and am
booked
on the next one, (I can't make a meeting on the 11:Aug though).
I think the idea of a formal group is a good one, as long as the
subscription isn't
too high. If we want to get any cooperation from Lego there needs to be
a identifiable
contact for them.
I'd be happy to offer my, limited, services in any way to help.
Mark
http://www.jumare.freeserve.co.uk/lego/t
"Jason J Railton" <j.j.railton@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:GxnCzA.I6G@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.loc.uk, Tony Priestman writes:
> > Yep.
> >
> > If expenses are outside the remit of the club, everyone will have to • meet
> > their own.
> >
> > If this was in the constitution, another part could say if it was • decided at
> > some point that funds were required for a project, a one off • subscription
> > could be called for. Or not. I imagine that this is the sort of thing • we'll
> > have to agree on when voting to decide what the club will do.
> >
> > Given that the intention is to run the club by concensus, this • doesn't sound
> > too outlandish, does it?
>
> I think fundamentally what we need is a method of electing • representatives
> of the membership, making decisions as a group or as delegated to the
> representatives, but most importantly a way of ensuring that members • will
> abide by the outcome of those decisions.
>
> 'Consensus' to me implies general agreement, which rarely works around • here.
> I think it has to be an electoral process with voting to take • decisions, and
> with commitment to abide by the outcome even if you as an individual • voted
> against it.
>
> Collecting subscriptions is one way of ensuring commitment, but with • nothing
> much concrete to offer in return that may be hard. One-off levies may • also
> be hard to collect from all members. I offer the suggestion of • starting
> with subscriptions of £0.00, so that the option is there to raise the • cost
> of subscription should it become necessary.
>
> Then again, perhaps no-one will want to stand for election if there's • not
> going to be any possibility of individual expenses being paid for club
> matters. In that case we would need a subscription cost.
>
> Assuming we have committed membership, how do we go about providing
> preferential services to members, rather than non-members? The only • way I
> can think of doing this is by informing them with some sort of mass • e-mail
> newsletter. Again we get onto the issue of splitting the discussion • from
> Lugnet, but I think it can work if handled appropriately.
>
> What I would suggest is that an e-mail newsletter is used by the club
> committee to announce club events, and something like the Yahoo board • can be
> used to hammer out strictly private club matters. Is it possible to • have an
> e-mailing discussion board that lets you opt out of specific threads • after a
> time? And that would let the committee override private settings to
> announce to all subscribers?
>
> Any other general club discussion can still take place in Lugnet. • That way
> the UK community can see and contribute, but specific details of club
> activities can be announced to members only.
>
> Agreements reached with third parties (e.g. retailers, TLG, LLW) would • be
> made available according to the terms of the agreement. For example, • the
> UKAFOL discount may have been arrived at for UKAFOLs in general, but a
> special shop discount may be arranged for (paid-up?) subscribers only.
>
> We would need some sort of annual re-statement of commitment from • members,
> if not an actual fee.
>
> I'm not sure whether the club should control individual members fests • or
> not. On the one hand, they could be financed from subscriptions, or • the
> club could charge and absorb any profit or loss. On the other hand, • the
> organiser may wish to handle matters and personally profit from the • event -
> or at least take some compensation for the effort involved.
>
> I think I would favour club control though, so that venues are booked • and
> dates are fixed well in advance, and people are notified and • commitments
> obtained from members at least. I think the hardest thing with a fest • is
> not the organising of the venue, but the juggling of vague hints of
> attendance or assistance. With a structured method of notification, • cost
> spreading and peer exposure of members' commitments this could improve
> considerably.
>
>
> Jason J Railton
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