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Re: Request For Comments: Proposal to set up a club for UK Fans of LEGO
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Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:20:43 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Tony Priestman writes:
<snip>

A lot of these things can be done without formalising anything. A lot of these
things can be done on LUGnet already.

*some* of these things can be done.

(snip)>
The end
. Before you
know it, there will be the Highlands Black Tea Lego Group, the Midlands
Bionicle-Hating Lego Group, the Inside-the-M25 Lego Alliance (No ZNAP Please),
the British Public Schools Lego Builders Group (No Oiks Please), and Lego
Lovers For A United Ireland (Green Bricks Only).

That's the funniest thing I've heard all through this debate, I'll be the
second member of the Midlands Bionicle-Hating Lego Group - we only need a
third for a proper comittee now. But seriously..

This does seem like a lot of very negative experiences, which I thank you
for sharing. As I said above, there is a lot that can be prevented by having
a well written constitution, and these experiences will inform our process
if we get that far.

I would urge you to think seriously about why you want to formalise things,
and avoid it, if at all possible.

We have done a lot of thinking, and can see no reasonable alternative. But
that's what this thread is for. As Lawrence Wilkes has pointed out, this
appears to be an annual question in loc.uk, having been asked for at least
the last couple of years. The answer has always been 'no', probably because
most people fear the litany of disasters you described above.

This time it's different. With the recent encouraging LLW events/meetings
there has been some remarkable enthusiasm stirred up in the UKAFOL community
(attendies and 'wish-I-had-been-there's alike). I was there in April for the
RLD and if Tony had posted his email that evening I'm sure the response
would have been far more positive - all those I spoke to agreed that they
would like to see a development of the "UK AFOL" relationship with TLC/LLW
with clear and obvious benefits to both parties. The small group of AFOLs
who subsequently arranged and attended a meeting shortly afterwards were, in
the eyes of LLW, limited in their commitment because 'we' ARE NOT a
club/association, we are individuals with a common interest. I wasn't
involved in the meeting, so please forgive me if I've misunderstood any of
this:-

This time - we have a route to develop better access to special bricks

This time - there are more of us (check popularity of next LLW event)

This time - we are big enough to give something back in return, as a group

The issues of constitution, financing, subs, splinter groups and labelling
of individual's bricks (Midlands Bionicle-Hating Lego Group excepted) are
just details and, as Tony says, all to be established based on general
concensus. Personally, I think Tony has angled his request too far in the
direction of not upsetting or offending anyone as none of us (myself
included) wants to assume the role of spokesman for the UKAFOL community
when the opinions/desires of the individuals are unknown.

However...for those of us who would like to reap the potential benefits -
Are you in or out?

I'm in - I volunteer for the steering group


(snip).

Even if this proposal doesn't lead to the formation of a club, I hope we can
learn something more about the nature of the UK community, and try to move
forward on that basis.

Thanks

Tony Priestman

Exactly...and if that means that 80% of the UK community are NOT interested
in setting up an 'association' to TRY to develop this potential
breakthrough, then the other 20% will have to assume the role of the 'united
front' and do whatever is possible within that limitation. There are a few
more days to register comments, lets keep it positive.

Jon Reynolds



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  Re: Request For Comments: Proposal to set up a club for UK Fans of LEGO
 
(...) Being someone who has been actively involved in two clubs in the past, one with a membership of just under 100,000, if you are clear about the rules and role of the club then most of the problems listed never arise. I think that there is a (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.uk)

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  Re: Request For Comments: Proposal to set up a club for UK Fans of LEGO
 
Thanks for this, Kerry. It raises a lot of good points. Apologies for you getting your own personal copy of this. More comments below. In lugnet.loc.uk, Kerry Raymond writes: <snip> (...) *some* of these things can be done. At the moment the UK (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.uk)

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