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Re: NEXT SYDNEY MEET....????
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Fri, 13 Jul 2001 07:01:45 GMT
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> Kerry, you have obviously been to WAY too many meetings lately (and not • the
> Lego kind either), and I think it was past your bedtime when you posted
this.
Both are very true! Meetings like this really do happen in my life, quite a
lot, actually and sadly.
If you want the "President welcomes, Secretary does inward/outward
correspondence" meetings, go and join the management committee of any local
community group (junior soccer etc). I've wasted a lot of Saturday mornings
listening to lists of correspondence "The Qld federation want to know if we
want to rent a stand at the annual fair", "Mr Smith wants to know if he has
to pay another joining fee to rejoin after an absence of 10 years". You can
grow old and die at these meetings and nobody would notice; indeed, this
appears to have already happened to a number of the long-standing committee
members!
As for the motion passing, points of order and so on, these are the
day-to-day operational mode of international standards groups like OMG (the
world's largest computer standards consortium). If you go to represent your
country/organisation at these meetings, you cannot hope to be effective if
you don't know the full Robert Rules of meeting conduct (originally defined
for use by the USA Congress) as well as the local variations. You have to
understand how pending motions are stacked, how to get the uppermost motions
amended (both by friendly and unfriendly amendments) prior to vote, you have
to know when and how you can "call the question" (my favourite procedural
tactic for getting progress), you have to know which people in the room do
and don't hold voting rights for any given motion (usually varies depending
on the type of motion), you have to know what your quorums are as to whether
this is the right time and place to put your motions, you have to plan
strategies to preempt other people's motions, etc. It's not enough to go to
these forums with some good technology under your arm, you have to know the
politics and procedures to get it adopted. To learn about Roberts Rules
(genuinely useful if you ever have to do serious committee work), see:
http://www.constitution.org/rror/rror--00.htm
However, if you read this kind of stuff, you will understand why I refuse to
take seriously any of the discussions about how we name our Oz Lego groups,
number our meetings, etc. And as for any idea that we should create
"official" organisations for ourselves, forget it. We really would end up
with meetings like my "minutes" describe. It seems to me that LUGnet is one
of the many experimental communities made possible by the Internet, and I
really hope that the Internet can make possible more effective and more
friendly communities than our normal "committee-based" communities ever seem
to achieve. I'm into Lego for fun, and there ain't no way that I intend to
contribute to its committeetisation (add this word to your dictionaries,
folks!).
> BTW: Very funny, although I believe that brickwars goes on far longer than
> in your minutes, and only one hour per round does not seem nearly enough.
To my mind, Brickwars is like watching paint dry. It seems that each round
takes hours for no visible result, but then I have never been into war
games -- not a chick thing, I guess :-) Personally I'd just stick with the
beer rounds and skip the others.
Motion to adjourn ...
Kerry
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| "I'm on a Committee" Oh, give me some pity, I'm on a committee Which means that from morning to night We attend and amend and contend and defend And reiterate all of our thoughts. We revise the agenda with frequent addenda And consider a load of (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| (...) But the holograms would be fun! ;-) (...) What sort of paint? Because if you get the right shade of blue-green semi gloss acrylic, you're right - it is pretty exciting.) (...) I see you fail to grasp the subtleties of the game ;-) (...) Well, (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| (...) ... (...) ... (...) Kerry, you have obviously been to WAY too many meetings lately (and not the Lego kind either), and I think it was past your bedtime when you posted this. Have a nice long sleep, and remember to play with your watch (Lego (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.au)
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