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    Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Ka-On Lee
   (...) Wow hold on a minute! Just because 8457 and 8458 are released does not means 8448 is gone right away. 8445 was gone pretty quick though. I wonder if we will ever see a technic catalogue like the one in 1996... (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
   
        Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Matthew Miller
     (...) According to rumor, there were trademark issues with the "Indy Storm" name, so they just decided to pull the entire model. Quite a shame! (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.dear-lego)
   
        Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Kevin Loch
   (...) I should correct mmyself. 8448 was discontinued 3 months after it was released, not 6. I can't give the details, but I know from several sources that 8448 is no more. The only chance of getting one new is the Imagination centers, but I don't (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Jason Fabisch
   Could it be that 8448 also had a problem with a copyright, like 8445(Indy Storm). After all, there is a magazine called Super Street, so Super Street Sensation would definately conflict. Indy conflicts with way too many things, Indianapolis raceway, (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Kevin Loch
     (...) I doubt it. I just did a USPTO trademark search and diddn't find anything obvious for "Super Street". Also, the 8445 was actually recalled from all stores, the 8448 was still sold by TLC stores until supply ran out a few months ago. 8448 was (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —James Powell
      (...) -beg to differ, not in Canada. I can get some if you want) Snip (...) I think that the air spring _is_ the problem. some people have gone through 2-3 sets of them already! James (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Adam Hoekwater
      (...) Why would it be pulled from brick & mortar stores, but not online stores? It was in 3 of the 4 stores I just checked. kbkids.com - $44.99 etoys.com - $39.99 toysmart.com - $29.98 -Adam 8^D (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Steve Bliss
       (...) It may be listed at those stores, but is it orderable? (...) Out of stock - can't order. (...) Hmm. No indication (without an order) of back order or out of stock condition. (...) They're out of business. Steve (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Sean Harrington
      (...) I don't see where you got this, Adam. kbkids.com doesn't list it (unless I'm missing something), toysmart.com is out of business, and etoys.com (as usual) is totally unresponsive. Does anyone else know: - Why 8445 was recalled? - Where I can (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Adam Hoekwater
       (...) Sorry, I never tried adding it to my cart at toysmart, I didn't know they tanked. As far as kbkids, it was there when I looked, but you're right, not today. I just had one in my cart at etoys.com about two minutes ago, and started going (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Sean Harrington
        (...) No problem. I also found them in stock at toysrus.com for $39.95. For some reason, etoys.com is TOTALLY unresponsive from my current workstation, but I do believe they have it; I just can't get to them. Thanks again for the update, Adam. No (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —John Barnes
        > >Thanks again for the update, Adam. No flames intended! :) I was probably just >cranky trying to find more good yellow technic pieces for a new VW Beetle Turbo >model I'm building. I may just get two of them, just for parts! > Can't you get a (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —John Jensen
      (...) I have no Idea why it was recalled "over there":) Here it is readily available, I know my local dealer has a few on the shelve, can't remember the exact price though, but I could find out. Kind regards John Jensen (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Geordan Ballantree
     (...) I have the 8445 indy car, and yes, the spring does break. I had to call into shop@home to order a new one. And I don't think that they are selling it in canada anymore either. I live in vancouver and I haven't seen one on shelves since july (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Phil Schilling
     (...) I have never seen the 8448 or the Indy storm 8445 in Canada, not even in the Lego Outlet store. The guy at the counter told me you could only get the 8448 through special order. I ordered a 8445 over 8 months ago (at the outlet store) and (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —James Powell
      (...) -if you are meaning the store in St. Jacobs, I picked up my 8445 from the toy store in downtown St. Jacobs (the instructions I got given to get to the outlet there were _funny_, go to St Jacobs, you cannot miss it....). This would have been (...) (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Henry Chea
   The 8448's are still selling pretty strong in Skandinavia... I saw them at Legoland Billund (Danmark) for about $60 USD, and they were selling like crazy. The 8445's are also still being sold in large quantities in Danmark and Sweden, but they're (...) (24 years ago, 14-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Tobbe Arnesson
     (...) The stores closest to me here in Sweden still has them on their shelfs. Perhaps I should get myself a copy before the dust hides them? I recently bought the 8480 Space Shuttle in a store so it's no rush for the larger models here in the middle (...) (24 years ago, 15-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: 8458 Silver Champion is incredible! —Eelco Kooiker
   (...) Here in The Netherlands all 1999-models are available yet. (...) Whow, that would be nice!! But I hope then they put some more "technic" in it. (The largest con. from 8458; no gearbox e.g.) Greetings, Eelco Kooiker (URL) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)
 

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