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ENFIELD, Conn. (AP) -- Toymaker Lego Systems Inc. said Monday it would close its molding and processing operations in Connecticut as part of a global restructuring. The move will mean the elimination of 94 jobs at Lego Systems, the North American (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general) !!
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(...) Thanks for the article, great info! Maybe this means a price break is coming. Yeah....right! Seriously though, if someone wanted to write a letter to Lego Big Wigs that would get noticed, what should he do? Any suggestions? Bill (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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"Will Middelaer" <betamale@REMOVE.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:G4pv4G.GEt@lugnet.com... (...) close (...) Swedish? regards lawrence (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) "ENFIELD, Conn. (AP) -- Toymaker Lego Systems Inc. said Monday it would close its molding and processing operations in Connecticut as part of a global restructuring. The move will mean the elimination of 94 jobs at Lego Systems, the North (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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I want to be the first to congratulate TLC on its shrewd marketing techniques. Obviously more computer-based sets, more varied merchandise, expansion of amusement parks, and juniorization have all been a resounding success!!! There is clearly no (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) (URL) seem to mention the specifics of the restructuring though, since it doesn't even mention Enfield's plant... any further news now that it's Tuesday? (And probably late afternoon in Denmark already) DaveE (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yike's!!! What does that mean for 3033 Tubs? Don't those come from Enfield? I can't see those being sold if they have to import them! (...) From a fan POV this should scare the pants off you! That is a lot of money and can't be a good thing. I (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) If this is any indicator, every year when those Salvation Army Christmas angels come out (at the mall they have a tree and each ornament has the first name and age of a local needy kid and a list of what he or she would like for Christmas-- (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I think this is good news overall. Especially this part: What did we learn? First of all, we have learned that we must run a healthy business with focus on healthy growth. This means that our important business area, Play Materials, must also (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) On the speculatively plus side, didn't we (LUGNet at large) identify a potential problem with economic competition between bulk sales of bricks and the brick tubs themselves? Perhaps if the 3033 is discontinued TLC will be able to devote more (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) pond) good for the USians, too? Hmm... This is not good, huh? Low US prices are a good thing for us, since even including shipping overseas, they still be lower than prices here for many of the sets. Selçuk (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) It might have something to do with the value of the US Dollar so being so high right now. (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) It will not make much of a difference. I don't know how many machines Enfield has, but I would suspect less than 25 injection molding machines (if they are laying off 100 people...) The cost of shipping Lego would not be very high, at least, (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Really! I would think that 100 people (per shift) could support 3-400 molding machines. The machines don't need full time attendants. Do we have an industrial engineer from the plastics industry in the house? I'm guessing. ++Lar (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) The last time I was in the factory, there was probably 75 - 80 moulding machines. There was also the decorating and assembling lines, along with the various packing lines. One thing this will do is make it a LOT more difficult for groups to (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Never been to the factory, but from the pictures I've seen, that's reasonable. (...) Yup :-( Understanding the true bulk ordering system a few of the NZ AFOLs got and how long/hard it was to get...doesn't sould too fun. (...) Yeah.. :\ I don't (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I agree. I also noticed that section, but here are some blurbs which caught my eye: What did we learn? <snip> We need to focus on strengthening our direct consumer access and on building stronger consumer relations. <snip> What have we (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Eh, Swedes, Danes, they're really just the same. (Ack, don't *EVER* say that to a Swede *or* a Dane...although the Norwegians might get a kick out of it, unless you generalise them into it too.) I wonder what the lugnet.loc.dk and (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I am unclear about what parts of the Enfield plant are closing. Obviously, the molding facility is closing, but what do they mean by the processing ( (URL) ). It was a long time ago (1987) but there were more than 100 people working in the (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | Re: Further Article on Lego ceasing Manufacturing at Enfield, CT location
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(...) It sounds like they are just closing a small part of it, the manufacturing side. They are keeping the distribution and headquarters in Enfield. An article from my local paper: Lego To Shut Enfield Plant, Lay Off 94 By MATTHEW KAUFFMAN The (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I'm no engineer, but DK's Ultimate Lego book talks about the injection plant called 'Kornmarken' (must mean something in Danish) at TLG's headquarters in Billund. It says that the injection moulding machines require VERY LITTLE human (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | Larry Tells All... (was Re: Lego To Close Molding, etc.)
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Larry Pieniazek writes: <<I'm guessing.>> 'nuff said. -- Richard (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Enfield's WAY too big to shut down the whole works on something like this. All of their Americas marketing is done out of there, distribution, etc. There's a HUGE shows & events department there - probably 30,000+ sq ft of workspace and (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) <snort> Not likely. They'd probably be killing off the 3033s because they compete too hard with the overpriced Bulk bricks. Don't get me wrong, I've ordered a LOT of Bulk, but not one standard brick yet, the prices are WAY too high per piece. (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | Re: Larry Tells All... (was Re: Lego To Close Molding, etc.)
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(...) But he is guessing just right. an automatic injection molding machine does not require a full time operator. One operator could easily oversee 20-30 machines, with enough automation is utilized, and I know Lego is very good at that. Selçuk (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I doubt it. LDMI (Lego Direct Marketing), the main distribution warehouse, is still in East Windsor, CT (about three miles from me, actually). Some of the blocks may have originated from Enfield, but much of them are tride-and-true Danish (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.lego, Will Middelaer writes: [...] (...) The full Associated Press article is now available on LUGNET at: (URL) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Indeed I was. But it was an educated guess based on my experience in the metals molding and manufacturing automation businesses, my chemical engineering background, my reading of several books on Lego and their manufacturing processes, and my (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Me either, unless you count tan or grey as a standard brick (I don't...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I've also bought green (I haven't processed enough tubs). Also, the green 1x6 and 1x8 bricks aren't easy to get in tubs or sets. Also, dark grey. (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I'll add in here, that I was guessing. I was figuring around 5 machines/operator, and a fair overhead/support. For example, if you don't have any production, you don't require _any_ QA. Also, if you figure 500 machines (a possible number, but (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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<snip> (...) If the preceeding paragraph does not finally convince TLC and some skeptics here that AFOL's make up a significant chunck of the market, I don't know what will. Personally I think the Life on Mars sets are a huge step in the right (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Unlike people who take potshots at others for guessing, you and I are both extrapolating from insufficient data, but nevertheless still providing valuable insight because we're trying to be useful. One area of the data that is particularly (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Honestly Larry, why is it useful to discuss this? You often make all kinds of appeals to authority on all kinds of subjects -- but to what end in fact? "Extrapolating from insufficient data" is all well and good, but that simple qualifier (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I may be new around here, but I have something to say. I really do believe that this Larry character is a silly, silly man. May a large angery giant one-day step on your head. Untill that glorious day, I remain, Richard Noeckel You can reach (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Well, my work here is done, worry not my little friends, for I will return...one day. And when I do, you can be certain that the craniums of the small minded shall be steped upon. Sincerely, Richard Noeckel You can reach me @ (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yet look at the shameless violence you're teaching the kiddies! ;-) Sure he's a silly man, but in Libertopia... <gdr> -Tim (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Wow, I haven't seen this blatant a troll pass since my days on alt.tv.swedishchef.b...bork.bork. Oh, and alt.kibology. Gotta have a hobby, said I, back in the Dark Ages. ;) best LFB (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I have seen some critical analysis which says that it is much better to have a lay-off several weeks before Christmas than right after. The incident which evoked the analysis I read was the Wizzards of the Coast layoff several years ago. Some (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry to butt in, but I'm having this uncomfortable feeling at reading speculation over K-8's. (I assume the above is speculation.) It just doesn't fit with my experience in TLC's distribution of K8's. I'm no authority on the subject, but TLC (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Suzanne D. Rich wrote: See, there is a god and we have invoked his holy desciple... :-) :-) :-) :-) (...) <snip> (...) I think I was saying about the same as you are. I definitely agree, the factory floor and K-8s are two different things. The only (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who may take umbrage at being ranked second in any pantheon, mind you. :-) (...) Thank you for your speculation, Frank. It may be extrapolation from insufficient information, and therefore derided by the rude, but I have my reasons for (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lol! (...) [snip] (...) exactly. it's kinda like the chads thing (duck). all politics aside, it's probably quicker and cheaper to just eliminate everything "out of the ordinary" ASAP. Companies' waste volume in production no longer surprises (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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