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| | | UPDATE NEWS on BrickShelf.com According to the mainpage of BRICKSHELF.com as if 9:25pm CST July 19, 2007 "Notice: Brickshelf will not be shutting down! We will be offering "featured" accounts for $5/month shortly. We have received hundreds of (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, lugnet.announce, FTX) !!
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| | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | (...) I've been busy and pretty much unable to post for most of the BS 'drama' but would like to chime in now. Firstly I'd like to extend my thanks to Kevin for providing this service for so long. It has been one of the 'constants' in the AFOL (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) I tend to agree with Tim. Limit free users to X amount of space. Disallow .bmp files. Maybe add some new functionalities for featured account holders. I'll be one of them. JOHN (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
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| | | | | | | (...) Tim, I have to disagree with a blanket restriction regarding filesize restrictions for images. While a 256K limit is fine for single MOCs (like your dazzling creations), it can be inadequate for other things like train displays and larger MOCs (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Jack Hawk
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| | | | | | | | (...) Perhaps the file size restriction could be on non-paying accounts, kind of "you get what you pay for" mentality. The value added feature for paying users could be a Flickr-like "view all sizes" option so pix could be seen at a higher (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Dave Sterling
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| | | | | | (...) Tim: What is considered a valid file size/resolution for BS pics? I've always kinda wondered what I should resize to for BS. I usually upload at 1024x768, but sometimes 1600x1200 if I really want people to see fine detail. Is this too big? I (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | In lugnet.general, Dave Sterling wrote (...) I can't speak for Tim, but for myself: Pictures on the net should be no smaller than 500 pixels high, 600 is good, 700 is pushing it. I base this off of how large the photo is on my screen. I prefer to (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Dave Sterling
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| | | | | | (...) Ahh. Point taken. The blurry crap pics on BS frustrate me to no end. I know everyone can't be a professional photographer, but c'mon...let's at least get the subject in focus. :-) I like the idea of cropping. I've been doing that with more and (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | (...) Hi Dave, Lenny has pretty well summed up my argument (although I'm happy with a slightly larger photo size). On the whole I care less about dimensions and more about Kb wastage. With decent jpeg compression you can have a pretty large pic with (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Edward Kohl
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| | | | | | | | (...) I also would like to see a Kb limit on posted pictures. I compress all my posted jpeg with JPEG Wizard from Pegasus Imaging. None of my posted files are larger then 350Kb and they are 1152 x 768. Pegasus’s more expensive Wizard has a (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | (...) Also not everyone can afford a decent camera. I too agree that Brickshelf should limit the kb size of images and not the resolution. And completly ban all video clips (due to their large size) and also all *.BMP files (whoever decided that the (...) (17 years ago, 27-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
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| | | | | (...) $5/month? LOL. Good luck with that. (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Ondrew Hartigan
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| | | | | | | (...) $5 a month is pretty nominal for a resource that has a virtually endless supply of ideas and creativity. I will certainly be getting a featured account and I hope the option is there to pay for a year or more in advance. ALSO, I’m sorry if I’m (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Good for you. I hope you get your money's worth. Pardon me for holding on to my money until I see what these 'advanced features' actually are, and how they compare to the other, significantly cheaper, options. (...) LMAO. If you think the (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I think the value of the continued existence of Brickshelf is pretty high. Sure, there are cheaper options. There always will be. But there will never be another Brickshelf. So by all means hang on to your money, Al. I happen to think that (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) You always were a man of great faith. (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Always look on the bright side of life, whistle, whistle, whistle, whistle, whistle. JOHN (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | (...) I can't help but wonder what the reaction to $5/month "featured" accounts would have been had it been made a week ago. We may have all learned something of the value of Brickshelf to the community over the last six days. Cheers Richie Dulin (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
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| | | | | | | What does this mean? "Allister McLaren" <allistermclaren@opt...et.com.au> wrote in message news:JLGLzv.G44@lugnet.com... (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Joel Midgley
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| | | | | | | (...) I'm kind of worried about that myself. If generating revenue was a problem, I'm not sure how this will help given that users can still opt for a free, non-premium account. If the freeloading userbase was the problem, why not implement a (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think cutting off free access would be kinda harsh. But I could definitely see restricted access -- limited resolution on files, etc. Steve (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Joel Midgley
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| | | | | | | | (...) I guess my greatest concern is that not enough members actually pony up the cash. We could easily end up back at square one six months from now. Brickshelf has accepted donations in the past with limited success. What's to say that this (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Matthew Crandall
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Hi, all-- Elsewhere on LUGnet, Kevin explains a lot. This is not going to be a moneymaker for him; rather, it will help to defray the costs of what has gotten to be a very expensive proposition. Here's a quick math lesson: right now, let's say (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
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| | | | | | | | I didn't sign up for the "Pro" acount, but my impression of Flickr is that it sucks. "Joel Midgley" <joelmidgley@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JLHA83.26w@lugnet.com... (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
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| | | | | | (...) Assuming you care whether brickshelf is around or not, do you have another solution that Kevin can take under consideration? Now's your chance. (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | (...) Whether or not I care that brickshelf is around or not has absolutely no bearing on whether it will actually be around or not. (...) LOL. Do you seriously think I should? (...) I'm not joining any campaigns. Just waiting for all the facts (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
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| | | | | | (...) Understood. But if you are not a brickshelf user, then me asking you your opinion about the $5/month is like me asking you what color pants I should wear tomorrow. (...) How do I know? It never hurts to ask. (...) Kevin made the point that (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Ted Godwin
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| | | | | | | (...) What point was that? That a single individual can control so much of the online LEGO world? That as the sole owner and operator of a web service of huge importance to the AFOL community he has neither tact nor the ability to communicate? That (...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX) !
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Tony Kilaras
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| | | | | | | | | "Tedward" <tgodwin@victoriaSPA...OCK.tc.ca> wrote in message news:JLHGzI.o6C@lugnet.com... (...) That Brickshelf is unique, needed and valuable, but it costs money to run. Hopefully, we learned something about of the how valuable Brickshelf is to (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Ted Godwin
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I have never said anything about the money aspect. The amount is a little high when Flickr allows unlimited use for $25/yr but that is not the main problem. The only thing clear is that this person cannot be trusted with such a crucial role in (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) The ingratitude is staggering, Ted. That "crucial role" was created by that person. Brickshelf, the institution, is what it is today because of Kevin's generosity and commitment to it for the past ten years. (...) That spurious comment would (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Brickshelf became what it is in no small part because of the thousands of people uploading content. Kevin is merely providing the real estate. Why are you surprised that people feel invested in it, and somewhat betrayed by these events? (...) (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX) !
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I knew somebody would offer that argument. Sure, Brickshelf depends upon content, but if Brickshelf weren't around, that content would be scattered across the net, unseen by most. "Merely providing the real estate" Are you serious!? That (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) (emphasis added) A slight correction: many of us felt upset because being denied to other people's content. I don't use BrickShelf to store my photos online, I use it to keep track of all the amazing MOCs out there. Are you suggesting I am (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) No. But I'm struggling with the term "betrayed". People felt understandably upset about losing a wonderful resource like Brickshelf, but the only way I could make sense of that word would be in the context in which I spoke. (...) No (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I'm grateful that brickshelf exists, but I still don't see why that should give him a free pass for pulling a stunt like he did. It's simply bad business practice. If that's how he wants to run his business, that's fine, but I won't be a (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX) !
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Maybe the plan was to cause a mass exodus from brickshelf to other services, in order to lower the bandwidth cost and make it manageable. If so, it certainly is likely to work. More power to brickshelf staying alive. It would be sad to see it (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Ted Godwin
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Actually I have to disagree with you there. The crucial role BS has come to occupy is as an intersection point connecting LUGNET, MOCPages, Blogs, Classic-Castle, EuroBricks, BrickWiki and the dozens of other websites that have chosen (by (...) (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Exactly! So, if someone doesn't come along and offer 100s of hours of personal time and $1000s of personal income to create a place like Brickshelf, it never happens, and the community never becomes what it is today. (...) Life is uncertain. I (...) (17 years ago, 22-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Yes. Such a consortia of AFOLs is sure to provide the community with ongoing peace of mind. Cheers Richie Dulin (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —James Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I do know this guy (Kevin) and he's a stand up guy. You I don't know, so if you don't trust Kevin then fine, if you don't want to pay for the use of Brickshelf then don't. Who gives a flying flip what you do, I sure don't. (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —James Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | | (...) I do know this guy (Kevin) and he's a stand up guy. You I don't know, so if you don't trust Kevin then fine, if you don't want to pay for the use of Brickshelf then don't. Who gives a flying flip what you do, I sure don't. (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Allister McLaren
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| | | | | | (...) Who said I'm not? (...) You didn't ask my opinion of the fee. You should wear red pants. (...) I think the word I'd use there in place of 'brilliant' is 'cunning'. (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) $5.00 is outrageous. No way can I see spending any more than $0.25 or $0.30 per day. ;) Dave! (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) What if it were about half of $0.30 per day? Would that then make you happy, Dave!? JOHN (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Scott Lyttle
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| | | | | | (...) I'll be perfectly content on 16.5 cents per day ;) (do the math...) (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, that winky says that that wisenheimer already did. JOHN (17 years ago, 20-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'll thank you to leave my winky out of this, you fiend. Dave! (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hey, you brought it in to this, and only you can (should, really) take it out, Dave! JOHN (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —John Patterson
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| | | | | | (...) What will happen on leap year with the extra day? John P (17 years ago, 21-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Update news on BrickShelf.com —William R. Ward
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| | | | (...) I would have no problem spending $5 a month on an image hosting service for LEGO. But I would not do it for one run by Kevin Loch. He has burned that bridge too many damn times. If anyone else were to take over BS from Kevin, I would gladly (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jul-07, to lugnet.general, FTX) !
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