 | | Understanding Leaks —Paul S. D'Urbano
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| | | Hi All, This may have been covered before, but as a relative newbie, I'd like to better understand what is meant when people talk about "leaks." I've noticed a number of folks talk about leaks in both LUGNET and FBTB, and gotten the impression that (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Bruce Hietbrink
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| | | | | Paul, The policy at fbtb is that there should be no discussion of leaks. The policy at lugnet, on the other hand, is pretty much anything goes. So feel free to discuss these here at Lugnet, but refrain from doing so on fbtb. As to your examples, the (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Joe Meno
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| | | | | | | (...) Hm. Apparently I'm a bit more liberal in my categorizations, as Bruce does have a valid point in LEGO/store communications. A counterpoint to this, though would be while the first two could constitute leaks, the Marz site would not...to a (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Bruce Hietbrink
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| | | | | | | | (...) Joe, My definitions were more based on the usage at fbtb.net, where there is a strong "no discussion of leaks" policy. Bruce (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) Lugnet also has rules about leaks... Here is a clarification by Todd of Lugnet's TOS regarding leaks: (URL) lugnet.admin.general Frank (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Joe Meno
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| | | | | (...) Tough question. A leak is an item of information that is NOT meant to be released. Most, if not all of your examples that you cited were meant to be released to, at least initially, to the dealers who sell LEGO. As such, I wouldn't list these (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | (...) Hi Joe - I believe a dealer catalog, obtained by and scanned by an individual who is not a dealer and placed on the internet would constitute a leak. I recall being at LEGO's office in NYC a couple years ago and having to almost beg for a (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Joe Meno
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| | | | | | | (...) hm...hadn't thought of that. You're right. No wonder I got the confidentiality form when I got my job:) Joe Meno (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Manfred Moolhuysen
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| | | | | | (...) Well (I do not post this as an argument for or against in the discussion), that seems to be exactly what has happened now. All sets not available to the general public yet, have been taken off the Marz Distribution site. With friendly (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | (...) Didn't that happen last year as well? Pedro (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Manfred Moolhuysen
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| | | | | | (...) I don't know. I didn't notice something last year. But if it did happen, and they it was banned by TLC in 2002, it seemds very strange that they would have made the same mistake this year. With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen. (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) I'm not so sure about this. With the exception of Shifty bricks, I can't think of any current clone brands that do much copying from LEGO, certainly not to the extent that they'd lurk around fan sites to cull secret, leaked information. What (...) (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Paul S. D'Urbano
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| | | | | (...) Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread. Most of this is a lot clearer now although there is still a little cloudiness that probably can never be avoided. I'd like to again express to the authors of the four posts I cited that I did not (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Mark D. McKean
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| | | | | | (...) I think this is an interesting point, and it wouldn't surprise me if there were some truth to this idea. TLC knows that Lugnetters, by nature, will (1) seek out any info they can find on upcoming sets, and (2) thoroughly, mercilessly criticize (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks — Jake McKee
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| | | | | | (...) Nope. Not doing that at all. No intentional leaks. Jake --- Jake McKee Senior Producer LEGO Direct (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —John P. Henderson
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| | | | | | (...) As much as I believe you Jake (especially considering the official stance that TLC does market studies based on its much larger child market and not AFOLs), you gotta be careful with such responses. The conspiracy theorists could have a field (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Assuming, of course, that Jake is a real person, not just some 21st Century version of Susan Williams... JOHN (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —John P. Henderson
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| | | | | | (...) Haha! I hadn't thought of that. But now that you mention it, that would explain how he got all those instructions on bricksonthebrain.com before he got the job at LD. And am I wrong, or did Brad Justus kind of disappear around the time Jake (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks — Jake McKee
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| | | | | | (...) You know, I was just telling Susan W. the other day that I've got to get a new suit. That black one is played. Jake --- Jake McKee Senior Producer LEGO Direct (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: Understanding Leaks —Ted Michon
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| | | | In the "real world" outside of us LEGO enthusiasts, "leaks" are almost always pieces of information that are deliberately distributed outside the intended audience. The "leaks" discussed on LUGNET are really more like "seepage", i.e., information (...) (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.general)
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