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Re: Lego and Disney, a continued future?
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Sat, 1 Jun 2002 05:32:15 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Ahui Herrera writes:
> Hum... Hum... Hum...
> Does this not go against the core idea of 'lego imagination'?
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> Sure all the products described below would be great for both disney and
> lego fans but does that NOT defeat the purpose of having a cild imagaine and
> build his own version of say the tinker bell castle? Perhaps exapnding and
> making extra parts (via bulks or other wise) more affortable is a better way
> to go.
Not any more than having a town set or a vehicle set defeating the purpose
of a child imagining his own version of those.
Making sets more affordable is a good idea tho. The Disney sets were pretty
expensive.
> You see as soon as you stamp the lego/diseny logo on a box that IS limiting
> the IMAGINATION of a child. let me explain a bit.
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> a) you buy a child an wild wild west set and that child will most likely
> start imaging other scence/sets he can build that are in that time-frame.
> Being them wagons, forts, indian house, etc... You the child has a big
> imaginable world to play in. This is good.
I dunno about that presumption...that would imply that a child would have
knowledge of that time period that is pretty specific. Children will make a
lot more than forts and wagons.
> b) you buy a child a star wars set (say x-wing). Now the imagainzation
> world is a bit more limited not becuase the 'world' is smaller but becauce
> he is not going to imagine or create is OWN version of tie fighter to go up
> against his x-wing. Why should he, he can go get a TIE. The world of sw is
> big but the child will beging to focus only on what he can see in other
> store sets. He won't dream of making a sw-ike car that flys you he?
> Probabaly not since it's not star warish... (well perhaps after seeing EP2
> he might). But you undersatnd the point his mindset is getting focuses on a
> limited imagainary world.
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Using this logic, a child would appear to have a mental short out if a Wild
West and Star Wars set were mixed. That doesn't happen too much. A child may
not imagine a TIE, but might imagine another enemy fighter...or create
something completely different with the parts.I'm pretty sure that a child
will imagine something.
> now you do a disney set, say the tinker bell castle? first is child had NOT
> gone to disney he has no clue what the castle looks liek ro what else is
> around the castle so he can't mold anything else. Next, okay he builds the
> castle (being that the real one is a shell) what is he going to build in the
> sindes of it? If you make it playable, then I will be a challenge to make it
> lok like the castle. Next their is NOT much room for imagination.
> Tinkerbell flys and uses magic? Hum.. How do you model that in lego? Okay
> perhaps you can image that you are peterpan or a frind of peterpan and you
> and peter pan and tinkerbell live in the castle. Is THIS PLAYING with
> legos? ro is this using legos to play out stories? I'm not sure what lego
> wnats to focus on but from all the years of having legos I've always seen
> them as lego is a object that I can use to build and image strcutures that I
> will never have. (a catsel on the forsest, a train, a space ship, etc...)
I would think that if such a set was made available (which would be a cool
thing, IMO) there would be adequate instructions for the insides and
exterior. It probably would be like Hogwarts Castle in terms of size and detail.
And yes it would be a challenge to build, but not terribly impossible...
As for Tink, well Lego already has a pixie, Millimy, in the Belville sets.
In fact there's a castle in that group of Lego sets, and flying can be
pretty easily modeled using the ol Hand of God or one of the transparent
handle rods in the Spiderman sets.
Playing With and using legos to play out stories...they both have the word
play in them. Younger children like playing out stories and imagine being a
part of this, and that progresses to playing with Lego as a medium to create
an object or setting. I understand the distinction that you are making here,
but I don't understand the relative importance of one over another.
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> That WORD 'collectors' SCARES ME. LEGO up until the Star Wars License has
> been wise enough to stay true to the TOY INDUSTRY and be a TOY MAKIER! That
> is every toy they make is garrantteed (for some amount of time) to be
> avaliable for ALL! Everyone will get the same thing and their is NO fear of
> missing out. When star wars came out I was afraid that LEGO would trun into
> HASBRO/KENNER and release the toys but the secondary market (comic books
> stoire) would buy them all up and resell them at a high price. Take the
> star ware action figure line form kenner/hasbro. Sure hasbro has made some
> great figuers like Grand Admiral Thrawn. But when they release them they
> gave few to many areas. Those areas that did get them one or two poeple
> would buy them all up and they you had to get them at double/triple cost at
> the comic book store. This IS NOT FAIR! Luckly, with lego sw THIS HAS NOT
> happened.
Collectors/speculators scare me too, as I was one of them at one time. Not
anymore tho...too expensive:) Lego sets have not been snapped up by comic
stores and the like because, well, Lego is regarded as a 'common'
easy-to-find toy.
> Diseny has a TOY MONORAIL so I'm not sure how well that idea is going to go....
Disney also has a Contemporary Resort and Epcot ball for the monorail.
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> -AHui
Just my 2 cents.
Joe Meno
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| Ahui makes some good and persuasive points, but I have a few counter arguements. First, the Disney toy monorail SUCKS! It's clear though that Disney is open to the posibility of features of the park being modeled in toy stature. By the way, a little (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jun-02, to lugnet.general)
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